Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers

[Owen DeLong via NANOG <nanog () nanog org>]

Is it?

What’s the bandwidth of a good quality 4K stream? What about 4 of them + various additional interactive technologies, 
software downloads, media downloads, etc.?

Looking at the graphs, my household (which isn’t average by any stretch of the imagination, but it is a household) 
doesn’t need a gig very often, but there are the occasional multiple hours where my Gig downstream does flatline at 
about 950Mbps.

So I’d say that I make sufficiently frequent use of the gig that is available as to render it unlikely I would be 
satisfied with less bandwidth.

Owen


> On May 23, 2022, at 12:29 , David Bass <davidbass570 () gmail com> wrote:
>
> What is changing in the next 5 years that could possibly require a household to need a gig?  That is just ridiculous. 
>
> On Mon, May 23, 2022 at 3:15 PM Michael Thomas <mike () mtcc com <mailto:mike () mtcc com>> wrote:
>
> On 5/23/22 12:04 PM, Thomas Nadeau wrote:
> > > On May 23, 2022, at 3:00 PM, Michael Thomas <mike () mtcc com <mailto:mike () mtcc com>> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > On 5/23/22 11:49 AM, Aaron Wendel wrote:
> > > > The Fiber Broadband Association estimates that the average US household will need more than a gig within 5 years. 
> > > >  Why not just jump it to a gig or more?
> > >
> > > Really? What is the average household doing to use up a gig worth of bandwidth?
> > >
> > > Mike
> > Thats almost the same question we were asked at BT a dozen years ago when moving from DSL -> FTTC when someone 
> > said, “but surely DSL is sufficient because its so much faster than dial.”
>
> The two of us survive just fine with 25Mbs even when we have a house 
> full of friends. I mean it would be nice to have 100Mbs so that it's 
> never a problem but the reality is that it just hasn't been a problem in 
> practice. I mean how many 4k streams are running at the same time in the 
> average household? What else besides game downloads are sucking up that 
> much bandwidth all of the time?
>
> Mike
>
>
> > —Tom
> >
> >
> > > > On 5/23/2022 1:40 PM, Sean Donelan wrote:
> > > > > https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-proposes-higher-speed-goals-small-rural-broadband-providers-0 
> > > > > <https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-proposes-higher-speed-goals-small-rural-broadband-providers-0>
> > > > >
> > > > > The Federal Communications Commission voted [May 19, 2022] to seek comment on a proposal to provide additional 
> > > > > universal service support to certain rural carriers in exchange for increasing deployment to more locations at 
> > > > > higher speeds. The proposal would make changes to the Alternative Connect America Cost Model (A-CAM) program, 
> > > > > with the goal of achieving widespread deployment of faster 100/20 Mbps broadband service throughout the rural 
> > > > > areas served by rural carriers currently receiving A-CAM support.