nanog mailing list archives
Re: V6 still not supported
From: Owen DeLong via NANOG <nanog () nanog org>
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2022 13:53:26 -0700
On Mar 30, 2022, at 10:09 , Jared Brown <nanog-isp () mail com> wrote: Randy Carpenter wrote:Owen DeLong via NANOG wrote: When your ISP starts charging $X/Month for legacy protocol supportOut of interest, how would this come about?ISPs are facing ever growing costs to continue providing IPv4 services.Could you please be more specific about which costs you are referring to? It's not like IP transit providers care if they deliver IPv4 or IPv6 bits to you.Have you priced blocks of IPv4 addresses lately?IPv4 address blocks have a fixed one-time cost, not an ongoing $X/month cost. - JaredHow, exactly, would you propose a company recoup the cost?There are many options, depending on the commercial relationship between ISP and customer. The ISP may simply charge a single one-time fee per IPv4. The customer may choose to bring their own IPv4 blocks as many BGP customers do. The ISP may chose not to charge separately per IPv4, as having those IPs enables them to charge $Y/month for Internet service. And so on and so forth. Furthermore IPv4 addresses do not wear out. IPs can be reused upon customer churn and excess blocks can be sold, if need be. - Jared
A growing number of providers are charging $x/IPv4 address/month as a way to recoup that cost. I expect that trend will continue. While it may (MAY[1]) be a one-time fixed costs to the provider, it’s not likely to stay that way for the customers going forward. Owen [1] Modulo RIR fees and the possibility that due to capital constraints, said ISP may have chosen to lease addresses rather than purchase them.
Current thread:
- Re: Bufferbloat and the pandemic was: V6 still not supported, (continued)
- Re: Bufferbloat and the pandemic was: V6 still not supported Livingood, Jason via NANOG (Mar 24)
- Re: V6 still not supported Joe Maimon (Mar 23)
- Re: V6 still not supported Jared Brown (Mar 25)
- Re: V6 still not supported Doug McIntyre (Mar 25)
- Re: V6 still not supported Owen DeLong via NANOG (Mar 25)
- Re: V6 still not supported Jared Brown (Mar 30)
- Re: V6 still not supported Randy Carpenter (Mar 30)
- Re: V6 still not supported Jared Brown (Mar 30)
- Re: V6 still not supported Randy Carpenter (Mar 30)
- Re: V6 still not supported Jared Brown (Mar 30)
- Re: V6 still not supported Owen DeLong via NANOG (Mar 31)
- Re: V6 still not supported John Kristoff (Mar 30)
- Re: V6 still not supported Christopher Morrow (Mar 30)
- Re: V6 still not supported JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via NANOG (Mar 30)
- Re: V6 still not supported Owen DeLong via NANOG (Mar 31)