Re: Let's Focus on Moving Forward Re: V6 still not supported

[Owen DeLong via NANOG <nanog () nanog org>]

> On Mar 26, 2022, at 17:30 , Masataka Ohta <mohta () necom830 hpcl titech ac jp> wrote:
>
> Owen DeLong via NANOG wrote:
>
> > It still looks like NAT to me.
>
> Almost all the people, perhaps other than you, accept NAT
> as is to keep IPv4 Internet or as part of transition
> plan from IPv4 to IPv6.
>
> > NAT is a disgusting hack and destroys the universal peer to peer
> > nature of the internet in favor of a consumer/provider model.
>
> As I repeatedly pointed out, end to end NAT is clean preserving
> the universal peer to peer nature of the Internet.

Nope… It really isn’t.

The problem of audit trail opacity is still a major issue with any form
of stateful NAT.

Owen