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Re: Starlink terminals deployed in Ukraine


From: Thomas Scott <mr.thomas.scott () gmail com>
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2022 18:27:04 -0500

As I'm reading this - I'm reminded that you don't need to destroy a
satellite to render it ineffective - just fill up the frequencies it's
Tx/Rx on with so much RFI that the pipe no longer bends. It's not as if the
frequencies and sat positions aren't public knowledge...

- Thomas Scott | mr.thomas.scott () gmail com


On Wed, Mar 2, 2022 at 4:32 PM Scott McGrath <smcgrath () starry com> wrote:

The Russians have several ASAT systems not all of them are ground based.
Remember they also have that grappler which locks onto satellites and
destroys them.     I think this conflict will be the first one where some
of the battles will be fought in orbit ie the ultimate ‘high ground’ the
NATO countries have kept to the UN treaties on not militarizing space.
 Other countries well not so much

On Wed, Mar 2, 2022 at 12:35 PM Valdis Klētnieks <valdis.kletnieks () vt edu>
wrote:

On Wed, 02 Mar 2022 08:51:05 -0500, Dorn Hetzel said:

Yeah, if Russia needs one 1st stage booster for every bird they kill,
and
SpaceX needs one 1st stage booster for every 50 they put up....  Yes,
Russia is bigger than SpaceX, but that's a tremendous ratio.

Plus  the asymmetry is even worse than that....

Elon can use that *same* first stage booster to launch *another* 50
next week, while the Russians need to get a *new* booster for shooting
down the next bird.

That's the *real* game changer in what SpaceX is doing....



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