Re: Starlink terminals deployed in Ukraine

[Tom Beecher <beecher () beecher cc>]

> So they’re going to offer the service to anyone in a denied area for free
> somehow? How do you send someone a bill or how do they pay it if you can’t
> do business in the country?

There is a difference between a country allowing SpaceX to install a ground
station in their territory, and prohibiting anyone in a nation's banking
system from sending payments to SpaceX. The former is much simpler than the
latter, and also kinda what Musk's comment was all about.

Even today, Starlink has no ground stations in the Ukraine. However, sats
overflying Ukraine are able to hit ground stations in Lithuania, Poland,
and Turkey, so those terminals are able to work.



On Tue, Mar 1, 2022 at 1:36 PM Crist Clark <cjc+nanog () pumpky net> wrote:

> So they’re going to offer the service to anyone in a denied area for free
> somehow? How do you send someone a bill or how do they pay it if you can’t
> do business in the country?
>
> On Mon, Feb 28, 2022 at 4:39 PM Jay Hennigan <jay () west net> wrote:
>
> > On 2/28/22 16:17, Michael Thomas wrote:
> >
> > > As a practical matter how does this help? You need to have base
> > > stations/dishes, right? Can they be beefy ones that can pump out
> > > gigabytes that would be capable of backfilling the load? Or would it
> > > need to be multiple in parallel? Wouldn't that bandwidth be constrained
> > > by the number of visible satellites in the constellation? I wonder if
> > > they've ever even tested it with feeding into an internet facing
> > router.
> > > Could tables on the satellites explode?
> >
> > If there aren't fixed Internet-connected earth stations line-of-sight to
> > the satellite that's serving the remote terminal, Starlink will relay
> > satellite-to-satellite until a path to an Internet-connected earth
> > station is in reach.
> >
> >  From the linked article:
> >
> > "Musk has previously stressed Starlink’s flexibility of Starlink in
> > providing internet service. In September, Musk talked about how the
> > company would use links between the satellites to create a network that
> > could provide service even in countries that prohibit SpaceX from
> > installing ground infrastructure for distribution.
> >
> > As for government regulators who want to block Starlink from using that
> > capability, Musk had a simple answer.
> >
> > “They can shake their fist at the sky,” Musk said."
> >
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