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Re: 202203071610.AYC Re: Making Use of 240/4 NetBlock
From: "Abraham Y. Chen" <aychen () avinta com>
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2022 22:50:05 -0500
Dear Seth:1) " ... should be ... ": Instead of "hand wave", this is a diplomatic expression to challenge the software engineers' knowledge of the networking program code for the current case. Ever since we started our study, we were quite puzzled by why the 240/4 netblock was regarded so special? Why no one could tell us what led to its current status, and even after IPv4 was set to transition to IPv6? ... etc. We also could not find anyone who could describe to us how was it being handled in the existing programs. This included those who claimed to be experts in the subject. Perhaps they intentionally tried to hide the detail, or they also did not know? One day, we finally came across a program fragment that could perform the "disabling 240/4 netblock" function. Upon presenting it to an acquaintance knowledgeable of networking programs, he confirmed that it was one concise technique to do the job. That was sufficient for our purpose as system engineers, because we should not overstep our duties by doing software engineer's programing task. That is, as long as we can demonstrate that "there exists" a solution, like proofing a mathematics theorem, we have completed our part of the deal.
2) " ... discussed to death many times over ... ": This was what we were told when we first looked into this subject over half a dozen years ago, and more times along the way. As long as there was an issue not resolved, however, every angle should be continuously explored. In science and engineering, if we stopped studying, because of this kind of viewpoint, we would have missed a lot of inventions and discoveries. So, this particular consideration is not in our books.
Regards, Abe (2022-03-10 22:49 EST) ------------------------------ NANOG Digest, Vol 170, Issue 11 Message: 10 Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2022 10:29:22 -0800 From: Seth Mattinen<sethm () rollernet us> To:nanog () nanog org Subject: Re: 202203071610.AYC Re: Making Use of 240/4 NetBlock Message-ID:<0c6c8b63-6e84-92da-2e28-89b2b5c6d639 () rollernet us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed On 3/7/22 2:14 PM, Abraham Y. Chen wrote:
The cost of this software engineering should be minimal.
So basically no solution is offered to what is the showstopper for this proposal, only a hand wave that it "should be" easy to fix (but that's everyone else's problem). I mean, I believe this has been discussed to death many times over in the past and yet here we still are. ------------------------------ -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
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