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Re: V6 still not supported
From: Josh Luthman <josh () imaginenetworksllc com>
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2022 10:36:43 -0500
Absolutely. This makes for good discussion. Strictly on the FTTH end of things to make it simpler (since that's where our growth is). We're very much residential with the commercial customers being farmers, home based mechanics/construction/horse stables, and the like - less Netflix and more websites. 1. Our ONT (gpon+nat+wifi) I'm all but certain would work out of the box. Now if the customer wants their own router in which case I guess we force them into one methodology for v6 (correct me if I'm wrong but there isn't a standard way to deploy v6 globally like DHCP, it needs RA which leads into obvious issues with the kid's 14 antenna Netgear). 2. Calix supports it (OLT), I suppose we would just need to enable v6 on the DNS servers and we're done 3. I don't believe our software supports it, but I'm not certain, obviously I haven't looked The biggest issue you completely left out is operational. I'd have to spend time adding on v6, which is a bit of a time sink but at least there's a nearby finish line. Time I'm not getting fiber hooked up to houses. Now when (not if, we all know nothing is perfect) there are issues with v6 but not v4 I have to figure out why "my internet is slow" when v6 has problems. Setting something up once, be it fiber or v6, is a one time capex. Ongoing support problems are indefinite opex. On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 10:20 AM Tom Beecher <beecher () beecher cc> wrote:
I would like to ask an earnest question here, because I work in an environment where IPv6 has been deployed for more than a decade, and it's just automatically part of things we do and have to solve for, so I will openly admit my perspective can be warped. I am truly curious about what the perceived blockers are for you, and others with the same perspective. You appear to run a residential ISP. There are essentially 3 things you would have to do to deploy IPv6. 1. CPE would need to support it. 2. Your network infrastructure would have to support it. 3. Subscriber services ( DHCP / DNS / IPAM ) would have to support it. Putting aside the 'zero value' idea, if you were to decide to take steps today , what are your blockers? On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 9:59 AM Josh Luthman <josh () imaginenetworksllc com> wrote:Gary, I'm the owner of the business. I answer a lot of tier 1 support calls. I read every single ticket summary. It's not denial, it's just that I'm small enough to be able to follow up on every support issue. You can claim bull if you want but my evidence can beat up your claim. On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 5:55 PM Gary E. Miller <gem () rellim com> wrote:Yo Josh! On Wed, 9 Mar 2022 16:46:56 -0500 Josh Luthman <josh () imaginenetworksllc com> wrote:Customers have 0 complaints about IPv6. 0 Complaints since 2006.Bull. I have not complained to any corporation in the last 5 years where the stanard response was not "We've never heard that complaint before". recently every one I my street complained about the same things at the same time, but we all got that response. Denial ain't just a river in Egypt. RGDS GARY --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 gem () rellim com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 Veritas liberabit vos. -- Quid est veritas? "If you can't measure it, you can't improve it." - Lord Kelvin
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- Re: V6 still not supported, (continued)
- Re: V6 still not supported Jay Hennigan (Mar 09)
- Re: V6 still not supported Tom Hill (Mar 09)
- RE: V6 still not supported netElastic Systems (Mar 10)
- Re: V6 still not supported Josh Luthman (Mar 10)
- Re: V6 still not supported Bryan Fields (Mar 10)
- Re: V6 still not supported Ca By (Mar 10)
- Re: V6 still not supported Christopher Morrow (Mar 10)
- Re: V6 still not supported Gary E. Miller (Mar 09)
- Re: V6 still not supported Josh Luthman (Mar 10)
- Re: V6 still not supported Tom Beecher (Mar 10)
- Re: V6 still not supported Josh Luthman (Mar 10)
- Re: V6 still not supported Robert L Mathews (Mar 10)
- Re: V6 still not supported Matthew Walster (Mar 10)
- Re: V6 still not supported Masataka Ohta (Mar 10)
- Re: V6 still not supported William Allen Simpson (Mar 16)
- Re: V6 still not supported William Allen Simpson (Mar 16)
- Re: V6 still not supported Saku Ytti (Mar 16)
- RE: V6 still not supported Pascal Thubert (pthubert) via NANOG (Mar 17)
- Re: V6 still not supported borg (Mar 17)
- Re: V6 still not supported Tom Beecher (Mar 17)
- RE: V6 still not supported Matthew Huff (Mar 17)