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Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers
From: Dave Taht <dave.taht () gmail com>
Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2022 09:11:11 -0700
On Fri, Jun 3, 2022 at 9:12 AM Masataka Ohta <mohta () necom830 hpcl titech ac jp> wrote:
Livingood, Jason via NANOG wrote:That shows up as increased user demand (usage), which means that the CAGR will rise and get factored into future year projections.You should recognize that Moore's law has ended. Masataka Ohta
For a long time now... I have had the opinion that we have reached the age of "peak bandwidth", that nearly nobody's 4 person home needs more than 50Mbit with good queue management. Certainly increasing upload speeds dramatically (and making static IP addressing and saner firewalling feasible) might shift some resources from the cloud, which I'd like (anyone using tailscale here?), but despite 8k video (which nobody can discern), it's really hard to use up > 50Mbit for more than a second or three with current applications. Even projected applications like VR, or adding other senses to the internet like smell or taste, are not bandwidth intensive. Looking back 10 years, I was saying the same things, only then I felt it was 25Mbit circa mike belshe's paper. So real bandwidth requirements only doubling every decade might be a new equation to think about... ... check in with me again and wipe egg off my face in another decade. -- FQ World Domination pending: https://blog.cerowrt.org/post/state_of_fq_codel/ Dave Täht CEO, TekLibre, LLC
Current thread:
- Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers Seth Mattinen (Jun 01)
- Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers Christopher Morrow (Jun 01)
- Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers Michael Thomas (Jun 01)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers Owen DeLong via NANOG (Jun 01)
- Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers Livingood, Jason via NANOG (Jun 01)
- Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers Michael Thomas (Jun 02)
- Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers Livingood, Jason via NANOG (Jun 03)
- Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers Masataka Ohta (Jun 03)
- Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers Dave Taht (Jun 05)
- Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers Masataka Ohta (Jun 06)
- Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers Dave Taht (Jun 06)
- Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers Michael Thomas (Jun 06)
- Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers Sean Donelan (Jun 06)
- Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers Michael Thomas (Jun 02)
- Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers Casey Russell via NANOG (Jun 06)
- Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers Jason Canady (Jun 06)
- Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers Casey Russell via NANOG (Jun 06)
- Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers Sean Donelan (Jun 06)
- Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers Kord Martin (Jun 06)
- Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers Sean Donelan (Jun 06)