Re: Scanning the Internet for Vulnerabilities

["J. Hellenthal via NANOG" <nanog () nanog org>]

On Mon, Jun 20, 2022 at 11:02:25AM -0400, Michael Butler via NANOG wrote:
> I treat these folk with the same respect they afford me. Not once in 30
> years of having a connected network (v4 or v6) has any entity asked "is it
> OK if we .. ?".
>
> To my mind, it seems rather idiotic and self-defeating to have the plumbing
> congested with packets intended to measure congestion :-(
>
>       Michael

Well put!

> On 6/20/22 09:46, Mel Beckman wrote:
> > Carsten,
> >
> > No, it’s more like 50,000 furnace guys who show up several times a day to rattle doorknobs, attempt to push slim 
> > Jim’s into window latches, hack your garage door opener, sneak into your back garden, and fly drones around your 
> > home to see what valuables you might have. Yes, some of them are altruistic, but some are self-righteous officious 
> > boobs, and the vast majority are career criminals that will rob your house, drain your retirement account, and kill 
> > your family with a spoofed SWAT raid.
> >
> >   -mel beckman
> >
> > > On Jun 20, 2022, at 4:20 AM, Carsten Bormann <cabo () tzi org> wrote:
> > > On 2022-06-20, at 04:18, Mel Beckman <mel () beckman org> wrote:
> > > > When researchers, or whoever, claim their scanning an altruistic service, I ask them if they would mind someone 
> > > > coming to their home and trying to open all the doors and windows every night.
> > >
> > > Well, it is more like the guy who comes once a year and checks that your central heating is not going to blow up.
> > >
> > > (Disclaimer: I have supervised students who designed and executed benign mass-scans of the IPv4 Internet in order 
> > > to validate hypotheses about market penetration of certain security updates, and I definitely would do that again 
> > > if there is a good reason to perform such a scan.)
> > >
> > > Grüße, Carsten

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