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Re: Long hops on international paths


From: Pengxiong Zhu <pzhu011 () ucr edu>
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2022 13:23:03 -0800

Hi Paul,

Just curious. How do you determine they are the same routers? Is it based
on IP address or MAC addresses? Or using CAIDA’s router alias database?

Also how do you draw the conclusion that the AS1299 router is indeed in
Chicago? IP-geolocation based on rDNS is not always accurate though.


Pengxiong

On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 10:03 AM PAUL R BARFORD <pb () cs wisc edu> wrote:

Hello,

I am a researcher at the University of Wisconsin.  My colleagues at
Northwestern University and I are studying international Internet
connectivity and would appreciate your perspective on a recent finding.

We're using traceroute data from CAIDA's Ark project for our work.  We've observed
that many international links (i.e., a single hop on an end-to-end path
that connects two countries where end points on the hop are identified via
rDNS) tend to originate/terminate at the same routers.  Said another way,
we are observing a relatively small set of routers in different countries
tend to have a majority of the international connections - this is
especially the case for hops that terminate in the US.  For example,
there is a router operated by Telia (AS1299) in Chicago that has a high
concentration of such links.  We were a bit surprised by this finding since
even though it makes sense that the set of providers is relatively small
(i.e., those that offer global connectivity), we assumed that the set of
routers that used for international connectivity within any one country
would tend to be more widely distributed (at least with respect to how they
appear in traceroute data - MPLS notwithstanding).

We're interested in whether or not this is indeed standard practice and if
so, the cost/benefit for configuring international connectivity in this
way?

Any thoughts or insights you might have would be greatly appreciated -
off-list responses are welcome.

Thank you.

Regards, PB

Paul Barford
University of Wisconsin - Madison

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Regards,
Pengxiong Zhu
Department of Computer Science and Engineering
University of California, Riverside

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