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Re: LEC copper removal from commercial properties


From: Martin Hannigan <hannigan () gmail com>
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2022 10:55:28 -0500

On Wed, Feb 16, 2022 at 11:22 PM <hak () cooper edu> wrote:


I believe that should be 19-72A1.

https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/FCC-19-72A1.pdf

Essentially, all services must be transitioned to fiber or wireless by
August 2nd, 2022.

I'm reading that document and that's not what it appears to say at all.

This seems to be about discontinuing the artificial price restrictions of
2 and 4 wire dry pair loops that LECs resell to service providers, e.g.
competitive DSL providers.

I don't see anything in this order which would mandate that LECs
discontinue
their own DSL or POTS services.  It would be especially ludicrous since in
many parts of many markets, there is no alternative at this time.
Shane



Here's the exact, troubling, language they use in the LEC letter for
commercial properties:

"If we do not here from you, or if you do not allow LEC access to your
property to complete the fiber upgrade, all services provided to your
tenants in your property over Verizon copper wires (voice and data service,
as well as, alarm, elevator, and office lines) will be discontinued as part
of the copper retirement plans that LEC expects to initiate in the near
future. *This includes services provided through other providers using
LEC's copper lines.* *After services are discontinued tenants with voice
service provided over copper will lose dial tone, including the ability to
dial 911."*

Overall, it was poorly written and initially geared towards
multi-tenant/residential, not a commercial office tower. They used the
words "plan" and "expected".

Warm regards,

-M<

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