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Re: LEC copper removal from commercial properties


From: Brandon Svec via NANOG <nanog () nanog org>
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2022 18:20:43 -0800

I found an alarmist email from a provider that I have not fact checked that states-

The FCC has issued Order 10-72A1 that mandates that all POTS Lines in the USA be replaced with an alternative service 
by August 2, 2022.

Brandon Svec 


On Feb 16, 2022, at 6:16 PM, Brandon Svec <bsvec () teamonesolutions com> wrote:

Telcos have been trying/begging/warning of discontinuing copper for many years. Maybe the political and regulatory 
environment is currently allowing them to get on with it in some areas?

I don’t think there is an FCC rule requiring the fiber as much as allowing the removal of copper. 

Brandon Svec 


On Feb 16, 2022, at 6:01 PM, Martin Hannigan <hannigan () gmail com> wrote:



NANOG'ers;

At least in Boston, commercial property owners are receiving notices that 'copper  lines are being removed per FCC 
rules' and replaced with fiber. The property owner, not the network operators (or users of unbundled elements if 
that's even still a thing) are being presented with an agreement that acknowledges the removal, authorizes the fiber 
installation and provides for a minor oversight of the design. It suggests that no costs are involved in terms of 
hosting equipment. No power reimbursement. No rent for spaces used. 

There is an ominous paragraph in the letter that says if the property owner doesn't comply that tenants will lose 
all services including elevator phones, alarms, voice, internet and any copper/ds0 originated services. They didn't 
say 911, but that would go without saying. 

Has anyone heard of this?
What FCC rule requires this?

Thanks for any insights.

Warm regards,

Martin

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