Re: Frontier Dark Fiber

["Jay R. Ashworth" <jra () baylink com>]

"I wouldn't have thought that Frontier was able to offer dark fiber loops to
end user customers at any kind of reasonable product-scale".

Sorry; didn't know I had to show my work here.  :-)

Cheers,
-- jra

----- Original Message -----
> From: "Eric Kuhnke" <eric.kuhnke () gmail com>
> To: "nanog () nanog org list" <nanog () nanog org>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 3, 2022 2:24:45 PM
> Subject: Re: Frontier Dark Fiber

> Any regional ILEC spanning at least a few counties in size will have some
> amount of inter-CO dark fiber, whether they want to sell it to any 3rd
> parties is entirely another question.
>
>
>
> On Wed, 3 Aug 2022 at 08:17, Jay Ashworth <jra () baylink com> wrote:
>
> > I wouldn't have thought that Frontier was able to offer dark fiber, since
> > air distribution fan out is all GPON, is it not?
> >
> > If their fanout was active ethernet it might be a different story but...
> >
> > Cheers,
> > -- jra
> >
> > On July 13, 2022 7:40:47 AM EDT, Mike Hammett <nanog () ics-il net> wrote:
> > > I'm looking for a contact at Frontier that can discuss dark fiber.
> > >
> > > My current account exec says they don't offer it, yet prior conversations
> > > with him and a previous SE revealed that they very much did (just didn't
> > > have availability on the paths I wanted at the time).
> > >
> > > Their web site highlights it fairly proudly.
> > >
> > >
> > > I'm aware that availability varies.
> > >
> > > I'm aware that they likely don't want to sell it.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----
> > > Mike Hammett
> > > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
> > > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
> > > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
> > > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
> > > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
> > > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
> > > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
> > > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
> > > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
> > > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
> > > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
> > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> > --
> > Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

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