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Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections
From: John Curran <jcurran () istaff org>
Date: Sun, 30 May 2021 10:30:17 -0400
Sean - As others have alluded to, it likely would heavily depend how such a definition of “broadband Internet" gets used… As a recommendation, it’s a wonderful thing to have a reference target for service providers to aim for in their offerings. As a mandated requirement (e.g. when used for purposes of approving government licensing or funding), then it’s very important to recognize that there will always be unintended consequences of such mandates; i.e. it’s very easy to argue that “everyone deserves N times faster Internet”, but implementation reality is always that funding doesn’t exist to provide that service to everyone, so such mandates can result in those who would very much appreciate an “inferior” government-approved or subsidized service getting no service at all… The above is not a statement in favor or against any particular definition, but rather observation that the question is hard to consider absent more detail about circumstances (and some of the potential consequences) of how the definition will be applied back in the real-world. Thanks, /John
On 27 May 2021, at 8:29 PM, Sean Donelan <sean () donelan com> wrote: What should be the new minimum speed for "broadband" in the U.S.? This is the list of past minimum broadband speed definitions by year year speed 1999 200 kbps in both directions (this was chosen as faster than dialup/ISDN speeds) 2000 200 kbps in at least one direction (changed because too many service providers had 128 kbps upload) 2010 4 mbps down / 1 mbps up 2015 25 Mbps down / 3 Mbps up (wired) 5 Mbps down / 1 Mbps up (wireless) 2021 ??? / ??? (some Senators propose 100/100 mbps) Not only in major cities, but also rural areas Note, the official broadband definition only means service providers can't advertise it as "broadband" or qualify for subsidies; not that they must deliver better service.
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- Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections, (continued)
- Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections Laura Smith via NANOG (May 29)
- Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections Lady Benjamin Cannon of Glencoe (May 30)
- Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections Mike Hammett (May 30)
- Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections Christian de Larrinaga via NANOG (May 31)
- Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections Josh Luthman (May 31)
- Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections Eric Kuhnke (May 31)
- Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections Lady Benjamin Cannon of Glencoe, ASCE (May 28)
- Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections Daniel Karrenberg (May 31)
- Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections Mark Tinka (May 31)