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Re: DOD prefixes and AS8003 / GRSCORP


From: Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists () gmail com>
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2021 16:01:17 -0400

On Mon, Mar 15, 2021 at 3:38 PM Mel Beckman <mel () beckman org> wrote:

I also note that this reassignment isn’t reflected in ARIN’s Whois database.

where is it reflected?


 -mel

On Mar 15, 2021, at 12:36 PM, Mel Beckman <mel () beckman org> wrote:

 Owen,

I think one cause for concern is why “almost all DOD prefixes (7.0.0.0/8,11.0.0.0/8,22.0.0.0/8 and bunch of /22s) are 
now announced under AS8003 (GRSCORP) which was just formed a few months ago,” which, according to ARIN WHOIS, had a 
source registry of “DoD Network Information Center”.

I think it’s a general matter of public interest how this reassignment of a massive government-owned block of well 
over sixteen million IP addresses happened. Even if not fraudulent, the public has a right to know who is behind this 
huge transfer of wealth.


is it possible that the DoD:
  1) signed a lRSA (or really just an RSA)
  2) asked AS8003 to announce these prefixes (in certain sized blocks, maybe)

under normal actions that arin does all the time for people?
If these were /24's and not parts/whole of /8's would anyone have noticed?

it's entirely possible that 8003 is just a holding tank for the
prefixes while DoD/etc find a method to xfer the space to those that
may be willing to pay pesos per ip, right?
Don’t you?

 -mel beckman

On Mar 15, 2021, at 12:23 PM, Owen DeLong via NANOG <nanog () nanog org> wrote:

 According to the timeline posted to this list (by you, Siyuan), Globl Resource Systems, LLC was registered in 
Delaware on September 8, 2020.
Your timeline also shows the resources being issued to GRS by ARIN on September 11, september 14, 2020
It looks to me like they subsequently registered the corporation in Florida and moved the company address there.

I don’t see anything suspicious here based on your own statements, so I’m a bit confused what you are on about.

Owen

On Mar 12, 2021, at 03:34 , Siyuan Miao <aveline () misaka io> wrote:

Hi John,

My biggest concern is why the AS8003 was assigned to the company (GLOBAL RESOURCE SYSTEMS, LLC) even before its 
existence.

When we were requesting resources or transfers, ARIN always asked us to provide a Certificate of Good Standing and we 
had to pay the state to order it.

However, it appears that a Certificate of Good Standing is not required or ARIN didn't validate it in this case.

Regards,
Siyuan

On Fri, Mar 12, 2021 at 7:17 PM John Curran <jcurran () arin net> wrote:

On 11 Mar 2021, at 7:56 AM, Siyuan Miao <aveline () misaka io> wrote:


Hi Folks,

Just noticed that almost all DOD prefixes (7.0.0.0/8,11.0.0.0/8,22.0.0.0/8 and bunch of /22s)  are now announced 
under AS8003 (GRSCORP) which was just formed a few months ago.

It looks so suspicious. Does anyone know if it's authorized?


Siyuan -

If you have concerns, you can confirm whether these IP address blocks are being routed as intended by verification 
with their listed technical contacts - e.g. https://search.arin.net/rdap/?query=22.0.0.0

As I noted on this list several weeks back - "lack of routing history is not at all a reliable indicator of the 
potential for valid routing of a given IPv4 block in the future, so best practice suggest that allocated address 
space should not be blocked by others without specific cause. Doing otherwise opens one up to unexpected surprises 
when issued space suddenly becomes more active in routing and is yet is inexplicably unreachable for some 
destinations."

Thanks!
/John

John Curran
President and CEO
American Registry for Internet Numbers




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