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RE: Muni broadband sucks (was: New minimum speed for US broadband connections)
From: Travis Garrison <tgarrison () netviscom com>
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2021 16:15:33 +0000
In my opinion, if a city is installing a fiber network for other providers to use, they need to plan on active-e only. Let it be up to the providers back at the head end to either plug the individual strands into a switch for active-e or into a splitter for a PON type setup. Thank you Travis Garrison -----Original Message----- From: NANOG <nanog-bounces+tgarrison=netviscom.com () nanog org> On Behalf Of Mikael Abrahamsson via NANOG Sent: Thursday, June 3, 2021 11:00 AM To: Masataka Ohta <mohta () necom830 hpcl titech ac jp> Cc: nanog () nanog org Subject: Re: Muni broadband sucks (was: New minimum speed for US broadband connections) On Fri, 4 Jun 2021, Masataka Ohta wrote:
As cabling cost is mostly independent of the number of cores in a cable, as long as enough number of cores for single star are provided, which means core cost is mostly cabling cost divided by number of subscribers, single star does not cost so much. Then, PON, needing large closures for splitters and lengthy drop cables from the closures, costs a lot cancelling small cost of using dedicated cores of single star. On the other hand, if PON is assumed and the number of cores in a cable is small, core cost for single star will be large and only one PON operator with the largest share (shortest drop cable from closures to, e.g. 8 customers) can survive, resulting in monopoly.
My experience is that people can prove either active-e or pon is the cheapest by changing the in-parameters of the calculation. There are valid concerns/advantages with both and there is no one-size-fits-all. -- Mikael Abrahamsson email: swmike () swm pp se
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- Re: Muni broadband sucks (was: New minimum speed for US broadband connections), (continued)
- Re: Muni broadband sucks (was: New minimum speed for US broadband connections) Richey Goldberg (Jun 03)
- Re: Muni broadband sucks (was: New minimum speed for US broadband connections) Mike Hammett (Jun 03)
- Re: Muni broadband sucks (was: New minimum speed for US broadband connections) Chris Adams (Jun 02)
- Re: Muni broadband sucks (was: New minimum speed for US broadband connections) Mark Tinka (Jun 02)
- Re: Muni broadband sucks (was: New minimum speed for US broadband connections) Masataka Ohta (Jun 02)
- Re: Muni broadband sucks (was: New minimum speed for US broadband connections) Mark Tinka (Jun 02)
- Re: Muni broadband sucks (was: New minimum speed for US broadband connections) Mikael Abrahamsson via NANOG (Jun 03)
- Re: Muni broadband sucks (was: New minimum speed for US broadband connections) Mark Tinka (Jun 03)
- Re: Muni broadband sucks (was: New minimum speed for US broadband connections) Masataka Ohta (Jun 03)
- Re: Muni broadband sucks (was: New minimum speed for US broadband connections) Mikael Abrahamsson via NANOG (Jun 03)
- RE: Muni broadband sucks (was: New minimum speed for US broadband connections) Travis Garrison (Jun 03)
- Re: Muni broadband sucks (was: New minimum speed for US broadband connections) Baldur Norddahl (Jun 03)
- Re: Muni broadband sucks (was: New minimum speed for US broadband connections) Josh Luthman (Jun 03)
- Re: Muni broadband sucks (was: New minimum speed for US broadband connections) Masataka Ohta (Jun 03)
- Re: Muni broadband sucks (was: New minimum speed for US broadband connections) Baldur Norddahl (Jun 04)
- Re: Muni broadband sucks (was: New minimum speed for US broadband connections) Josh Luthman (Jun 04)
- Re: Muni broadband sucks (was: New minimum speed for US broadband connections) Masataka Ohta (Jun 04)
- Re: Muni broadband sucks (was: New minimum speed for US broadband connections) Jim Troutman (Jun 03)
- Re: Muni broadband sucks (was: New minimum speed for US broadband connections) Mark Tinka (Jun 03)
- Re: Muni broadband sucks (was: New minimum speed for US broadband connections) Mark Tinka (Jun 03)
- Re: Muni broadband sucks (was: New minimum speed for US broadband connections) Masataka Ohta (Jun 03)