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Re: DANE of SMTP Survey


From: Mark Andrews <marka () isc org>
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2021 00:06:51 +1000

DANE works with self generated CERTs.  The TLSA record provides the cryptographic link back to the DNSSEC root.

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Mark Andrews

On 3 Jun 2021, at 22:32, babydr DBA James W. Laferriere <babydr () baby-dragons com> wrote:

    Hello Mark ,

On Wed, 2 Jun 2021, Mark Tinka wrote:
On 6/2/21 11:07, Jeroen Massar via NANOG wrote:

As for solutions: better education, more improvements to the tools & making it easier. CDS records already help a 
lot. But we might also need to improve recovery mechanisms, as f-ups are made, and you don't want to be off this 
Internet thing for too long.

I think DNSSEC implementation needs to be made less scary for folk who are apprehensive, and broken down into two 
steps, where step 1 is most emphasized:

* Enable DNSSEC on your resolvers. Does not require you to sign your
 zones. Does not require you to read up on what it takes to sign and
 maintain your zones. Does not require you to worry and test for the
 next 60 days whether DNSSEC will break your e-mail delivery, e.t.c.:

             dnssec-enable yes;
             dnssec-validation auto;

        Done! Two lines (BIND, in this case), and off you go.

   Will this handle the case of self-signed only ?
   And as Jeroen Massar mentioned the resignation of a certificate is a tad troubles some for both DNSSEC & DANE .

* Step 2 - take your time cluing up on getting your zone signed, and
 being part of the solution toward a more secure Internet. No
 pressure, at your pace.

   Again ,  Will this handle the case of self-signed only ?

Mark.
       Tia ,  JimL
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