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Re: [**EXTERNAL**] Re: Half Fibre Pair
From: Rod Beck <rod.beck () unitedcablecompany com>
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2021 16:11:29 +0000
What is interesting is this new deep sea design. In the old days cables had 4 to 8 pairs max. Now I am seeing Orange talking about 18 pairs and 24 pairs. With more widely regeneration. https://www.orange.com/en/newsroom/press-releases/2021/orange-takes-leading-role-us-europe-route-two-new-generation-submarine [https://www.orange.com/sites/orangecom/files/styles/crop_4_3_large/public/2021-01/Amiti%C3%A9%20Dunant.jpg?h=dcad9be9&itok=ZFfo2VK1]<https://www.orange.com/en/newsroom/press-releases/2021/orange-takes-leading-role-us-europe-route-two-new-generation-submarine> Orange takes a leading role in the US to Europe route with two new generation submarine cables linking the East Coast to France | Orange Com<https://www.orange.com/en/newsroom/press-releases/2021/orange-takes-leading-role-us-europe-route-two-new-generation-submarine> After the landing of the Dunant cable, a Google project announced back in March 2020, Orange announces it is now ready for service for its wholesale and business customers. With 12 fibre pairs with over 30 Tbps of capacity each, multiplying by three the previous generation of transatlantic submarine cables capacity. Orange also announces the signature of a partnership on the AMITIÉ cable ... www.orange.com Regards, Rdoerick. ________________________________ From: Fox, Barbara <bfox () ciena com> Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 3:52 PM To: Mark Tinka <mark.tinka () seacom com>; Rod Beck <rod.beck () unitedcablecompany com>; nanog () nanog org <nanog () nanog org> Subject: RE: [**EXTERNAL**] Re: Half Fibre Pair I asked a submarine guy how much the fibers can carry because this sounded low to me. His response: it depends on the type of cable. Older cables (with embedded dispersion compensation) have a lot less capacity and I have seen some as low as 1Tb/s per fiber pair and some as high as 10Tb/s per fiber pair. All newer D+ Cables that have been deployed in the last 5 years and will be the only cables deployed going forward can easily carry 20Tb/s of capacity per fiber pair. Something Like Havfrue can support 22T per fiber pair and there are 8 fiber pairs for a total of 176T. Barbara From: NANOG <nanog-bounces+bfox=ciena.com () nanog org> On Behalf Of Mark Tinka Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 7:13 AM To: Rod Beck <rod.beck () unitedcablecompany com>; nanog () nanog org Subject: [**EXTERNAL**] Re: Half Fibre Pair On 1/27/21 13:39, Rod Beck wrote: How much spectrum is a half fibre? It must be standardized in some fashion. It would be based on the amount of capacity each fibre in the overall system can carry across a given line system span. So say a cable system is able to carry 960Gbps per fibre pair, and it has 5 fibre pairs, that means a half fibre pair purchased by one of the consortium members would be 480Gbps. It is also possible for a consortium member to own a full + a fractional fibre pair, e.g., two and a-half fibre pairs. In such a contract, for example, say a 24 fibre-pair system could carry 1.2Tbps per fibre pair, that member would have 3Tbps of capacity. Mark.
Current thread:
- Re: Half Fibre Pair, (continued)
- Re: Half Fibre Pair William Herrin (Jan 26)
- Re: Half Fibre Pair Rod Beck (Jan 26)
- Re: Half Fibre Pair Matthew Petach (Jan 26)
- Re: Half Fibre Pair Rod Beck (Jan 26)
- Re: Half Fibre Pair Ben Cannon (Jan 26)
- Re: Half Fibre Pair Patrick W. Gilmore (Jan 26)
- Re: Half Fibre Pair Ask Bjørn Hansen (Jan 26)
- Re: Half Fibre Pair Mark Tinka (Jan 27)
- Re: Half Fibre Pair Rod Beck (Jan 27)
- Re: Half Fibre Pair Mark Tinka (Jan 27)
- RE: [**EXTERNAL**] Re: Half Fibre Pair Fox, Barbara via NANOG (Jan 27)
- Re: [**EXTERNAL**] Re: Half Fibre Pair Rod Beck (Jan 27)
- Re: [**EXTERNAL**] Re: Half Fibre Pair Mike Hammett (Jan 27)
- Re: [**EXTERNAL**] Re: Half Fibre Pair Mark Tinka (Jan 27)
- Re: [**EXTERNAL**] Re: Half Fibre Pair Mark Tinka (Jan 27)
- Re: Half Fibre Pair Rod Beck (Jan 27)
- Re: [**EXTERNAL**] Re: Half Fibre Pair Mark Tinka (Jan 27)
- Re: Half Fibre Pair William Herrin (Jan 26)