Re: Nice work Ron

[JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via NANOG <nanog () nanog org>]

When you sign a contract with a RIR (whatever RIR), is always 2 parties, so majority of resources operated in the 
region (so to have the complete context) clearly means that you are using in the region >50% of the provided IPs.
 

El 23/1/21 3:06, "Mark Andrews" <marka () isc org> escribió:

    Majority only means >50%
    when there are 2 parties.

    When there is more than 2 parties the majority can be less than 50%.   When there is more than 2 parties, one uses 
the term “absolute majority” to indicate >50%. 

    There are more than 2 RIRs. 

    If 40% of address are used in LACNIC, 30% in APNIC and 30% in RIPE then the majority of addresses by region are in 
the LACNIC region. 

    -- 
    Mark Andrews

    > On 22 Jan 2021, at 23:48, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via NANOG <nanog () nanog org> wrote:
    > 
    > 
    > 
    > El 22/1/21 13:25, "NANOG en nombre de Masataka Ohta" <nanog-bounces+jordi.palet=consulintel.es () nanog org en 
nombre de mohta () necom830 hpcl titech ac jp> escribió:
    > 
    >    JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via NANOG wrote:
    > 
    >> My proposal added the clarification that "majority" is understood as "over 50%".
    > 
    >    And the proposal is denied to be unreasonable by Toma and, more
    >    aggressively, by me.
    > 
    >    So?
    > 
    > [Jordi] The proposal, on this specific point, only made a "clarification", didn't mean an actual policy change. 
The existing policy already had "majority", so unless you believe that majority means something different than more 
than 50% (in the context of the full text), the change was "neutral". If anyone disagree with a policy in any region, 
MUST DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT: "bring the problem to the policy list, discuss it with the community, and if needed make 
a policy proposal". In Spain we say "barking dogs seldom bite" and in this context means "if you complain, but don't 
act, then you have nothing to do".
    > 
    >> The staff was already interpreting the policy like that, because
    >> usually when you say majority, you mean more than half. Do you
    >> agree on that?
    > 
    >    How can you ask such a question. already opposed by Toma and,
    >    more aggressively, by me, to me?
    > 
    > [Jordi] I think if we don't agree what means majority, then it is difficult to get us understanding among 
ourselves, so that's why I'm asking if you agree that in English, majority means more than half. In Spanish it means 
that.
    > 
    >    My point is that locality requirement, whether it is 50% or 40%, is
    >    impractical and, with operational practices today, is not and can
    >    not be enforced.
    > 
    > [Jordi] Then you need to come to the right mailing list and discuss that with the community. It is not me who 
decides that!
    > 
    >>> The community decided that my proposal to add the explicit "footnote"
    > 
    >    Then, the "footnote" might be applicable to *SOME* part of "the
    >    community" but definitely not beyond it.
    > 
    > [Jordi] A footnote in the policy manual is a clarification to the manual text, and of course *applies* to anyone 
who signs a contract with the RIR to obtain resources.
    > 
    >                                Masataka Ohta
    > 
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