Re: Nice work Ron

[JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via NANOG <nanog () nanog org>]

El 22/1/21 13:25, "NANOG en nombre de Masataka Ohta" <nanog-bounces+jordi.palet=consulintel.es () nanog org en nombre 
de mohta () necom830 hpcl titech ac jp> escribió:

    JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via NANOG wrote:

    > My proposal added the clarification that "majority" is understood as "over 50%".

    And the proposal is denied to be unreasonable by Toma and, more
    aggressively, by me.

    So?

[Jordi] The proposal, on this specific point, only made a "clarification", didn't mean an actual policy change. The 
existing policy already had "majority", so unless you believe that majority means something different than more than 
50% (in the context of the full text), the change was "neutral". If anyone disagree with a policy in any region, MUST 
DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT: "bring the problem to the policy list, discuss it with the community, and if needed make a 
policy proposal". In Spain we say "barking dogs seldom bite" and in this context means "if you complain, but don't act, 
then you have nothing to do".

     > The staff was already interpreting the policy like that, because
     > usually when you say majority, you mean more than half. Do you
     > agree on that?

    How can you ask such a question. already opposed by Toma and,
    more aggressively, by me, to me?

[Jordi] I think if we don't agree what means majority, then it is difficult to get us understanding among ourselves, so 
that's why I'm asking if you agree that in English, majority means more than half. In Spanish it means that.

    My point is that locality requirement, whether it is 50% or 40%, is
    impractical and, with operational practices today, is not and can
    not be enforced.

[Jordi] Then you need to come to the right mailing list and discuss that with the community. It is not me who decides 
that!

     >> The community decided that my proposal to add the explicit "footnote"

    Then, the "footnote" might be applicable to *SOME* part of "the
    community" but definitely not beyond it.

[Jordi] A footnote in the policy manual is a clarification to the manual text, and of course *applies* to anyone who 
signs a contract with the RIR to obtain resources.

                                                        Masataka Ohta



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