Re: Parler

[sronan () ronan-online com]

No, this is a list for Network Operators.

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> On Jan 10, 2021, at 5:32 PM, K. Scott Helms <kscott.helms () gmail com> wrote:
>
> 
> This is a list for pushing bits.  The fact that many/most of us have other businesses doesn't make this an 
> appropriate forum for SIP issues (to use my own work as an example).
>
> > On Sun, Jan 10, 2021, 4:52 PM <sronan () ronan-online com> wrote:
> > This is a list for Network Operators, AWS certainly operates networks.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > > On Jan 10, 2021, at 4:27 PM, K. Scott Helms <kscott.helms () gmail com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > No,
> > >
> > > It really does not.  Section 230 only applies to publishers, and not to network providers.  If this were a cloud 
> > > hosting provider list then you'd be correct, but as a network provider's list it does not belong here.
> > >
> > >
> > > Scott Helms
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 3:21 PM Lady Benjamin PD Cannon <ben () 6by7 net> wrote:
> > > > As network operations and compute/cloud/hosting operations continue to coalesce, I very much disagree with you.  
> > > > Section 230 is absolutely relevant, this discussion is timely and relevant, and it directly affects me as both a 
> > > > telecom and cloud compute/services provider. 
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > —L.B.
> > > >
> > > > Lady Benjamin PD Cannon, ASCE
> > > > 6x7 Networks & 6x7 Telecom, LLC 
> > > > CEO 
> > > > ben () 6by7 net
> > > > "The only fully end-to-end encrypted global telecommunications company in the world.”
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> > > >
> > > > > On Jan 10, 2021, at 12:13 PM, K. Scott Helms <kscott.helms () gmail com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > It's not, and frankly it's disappointing to see people pushing an agenda here.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Scott Helms
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 9:37 AM <sronan () ronan-online com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > NANOG is a group of Operators, discussion does not have to be about networking. I have already explained how 
> > > > > > this represents a significant issue for Network Operators.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Jan 10, 2021, at 9:09 AM, Mike Bolitho <mikebolitho () gmail com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > It has nothing to do with networking. Their decision was necessarily political. If you can specifically bring up 
> > > > > > an issue, beyond speculative, on how their new chosen CDN is somehow now causing congestion or routing issues on 
> > > > > > the public internet, then great. But as of now, that isn't even a thing. It's just best to leave it alone 
> > > > > > because it will devolve into chaos.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > - Mike Bolitho
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Sun, Jan 10, 2021, 6:54 AM <sronan () ronan-online com> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Why? This is extremely relevant to network operators and is not political at all.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Jan 10, 2021, at 8:51 AM, Mike Bolitho <mikebolitho () gmail com> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Can we please not go down this rabbit hole on here? List admins?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > - Mike Bolitho
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Sun, Jan 10, 2021, 1:26 AM William Herrin <bill () herrin us> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Anybody looking for a new customer opportunity? It seems Parler is in
> > > > > > > > search of a new service provider. Vendors need only provide all the
> > > > > > > > proprietary AWS APIs that Parler depends upon to function.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/01/09/amazon-parler-suspension/
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > > > Bill HErrin