Re: Submitting Fake Geolocation for blocks to Data Brokers and RIRs

[nanoguser100 via NANOG <nanog () nanog org>]

William,

The plan is to carve out a /24 for "Estonia" and have special servers on it.  This would be the same /24 I'd have to 
use if I were to put a legitimate POP there.  This also means I don't conflict with the real Germany.

I am just worried about violating the 'rules' of these providers and getting myself blacklisted from submitting 
corrections.  Afterall the traceroute will still show us hitting a router in Germany before it hits my network.  
Traceroutes aren't the end all be all but it's a tell-tale sign.

I guess this is all ISP-reported info so it's not "illegal" or a violation in any way.

-Nanoguser100



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On Wednesday, April 21, 2021 4:31 PM, William Herrin <bill () herrin us> wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 21, 2021 at 12:35 PM nanoguser100
> nanoguser100 () protonmail com wrote:
>
> > providing cloud hosted desktop solutions for end users.
>
> I missed this on the first read. Virtual Desktop along the lines of
> Azure Virtual Desktop, Google VDI or Amazon Workspaces.
>
> I would emphasize this; it'll help folks on the group offer better information.
>
> > We are not a VPN per-se, it's more of a cloud hosted remote desktop service. We do have a VPN service as well which 
> > provides security services.
>
> That's a really interesting question. Some uses of geolocation will
> give suboptimal results if you pick Estonia since the packets need to
> go to Germany. Others, like content restriction, won't work right
> unless the IPs reflect the users' location.
>
> Generally, I think the geolocation is represented as the rough region
> where the servers are, with services that care about geolocation for
> content restriction intentionally disallowing them. That's the safe
> answer. For the alternative, I expect the different consumers of
> geolocation services will have different opinions about it.
>
> > With that being said is it proper for transit providers to advertise the IP of their end users?
>
> Yes.
>
> > Are we considered a true transit provider since we are not an ISP per-se?
>
> No. It's not whether you're an ISP, the IP packets are stopping at
> your network; you're not transiting them onward.
>
> Regards,
> Bill Herrin
>
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> William Herrin
> bill () herrin us
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