Re: Switch for SFP+

[Josh Baird <joshbaird () gmail com>]

LACP+tagged VLANs is not a problem for me on RouterOS.   I'm not wasting my
time on SwOS.

In general, Mikrotik's L2 switching implementation is very frustrating, but
I think it's gotten a bit better on the CRS3XX series of switches.

On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 5:53 PM Randy Carpenter <rcarpen () network1 net>
wrote:

> I could never get LACP + tagged VLANs to work on SwOS.
>
> Then again, it doesn't work reliably on RouterOS either, so I gave up.
> Spending more on hardware that is well supported is worth it versus my time
> and sanity.
>
> I think Ubiquiti pretty much has the "cheap hardware that works well, but
> commercial support lacking" market cornered.
>
> thanks,
> -Randy
>
> ----- On May 18, 2020, at 5:43 PM, nanog <nanog () nanog org> wrote:
>
> Yep, run SwichOS, prevents you from running things in software. 😊
>
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> *From:* NANOG <nanog-bounces () nanog org> *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
> *Sent:* Monday, May 18, 2020 4:37 PM
> *To:* Mauro Gasparini <mjgasparini () gmail com>
> *Cc:* nanog () nanog org
> *Subject:* Re: Switch for SFP+
>
>
>
> That's a downfall of Mikrotik, they give you ultimate power. You can do
> some pretty atypical things on there.
>
>
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> *From: *"Mauro Gasparini" <mjgasparini () gmail com>
> *To: *nanog () nanog org
> *Sent: *Monday, May 18, 2020 1:45:59 PM
> *Subject: *Re: Switch for SFP+
>
> It's clear then that I must use "bridge vlan" to achieve the goal I am
> looking for.
> Now it's time for me to study, research and test on my side.
> If I have any specific questions, I will draw on your experience.
> Thanks a lot.
>
> El 15/5/20 a las 22:11, Travis Garrison escribió:
>
> On the CRS 3xx line, use vlan filtering instead. This guarantees hardware
> offloading.
>
>
>
> PS. Do not use this method on the 1xx or 2xx lines.
>
>
>
> /interface bonding
> add mode=802.3ad name=bond-inet slaves=ether9,ether10,ether8
> transmit-hash-policy=layer-2-and-3
>
>
>
> /interface bridge
>
> add name=bridge vlan-filtering=yes
>
>
>
> /interface bridge port
>
> add bridge=bridge interface=bond-inet
>
> add bridge=bridge interface=sfp1
>
>
>
> /interface bridge vlan
>
> add bridge=bridge tagged=bond-inet,sfp1 vlan-ids=201
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Travis
>
>
>
> *From:* NANOG <nanog-bounces () nanog org> <nanog-bounces () nanog org> *On
> Behalf Of *Mauro Gasparini
> *Sent:* Friday, May 15, 2020 10:55 AM
> *To:* nanog () nanog org
> *Subject:* Re: Switch for SFP+
>
>
>
> This works well on my CRSs:
>
> /interface bonding
> add mode=802.3ad name=bond-inet slaves=ether9,ether10,ether8
> transmit-hash-policy=layer-2-and-3
>
> /interface bridge port
> add bridge=br-cabase interface=bond-inet
> add bridge=br-cabase interface=sfp1
>
> But if I want to bridge vlans behind some bonding Instead of bridging phy
> interfaces, cpu explodes:
>
> /interface vlan
> add name=vl201-mmen vlan-id=201 interface=sfp1
> add name=vl201-mment vlan-id=201 interface=bond-inet
>
> /interface bridge port
> add bridge=br-mment interface=vl201-mmen
> add bridge=br-mment interface=vl201-mment
>
> El 15/5/20 a las 12:06, Mike Hammett escribió:
>
> https://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:CRS3xx_series_switches#Bonding
>
>
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> *From: *"Mauro Gasparini" <mjgasparini () gmail com> <mjgasparini () gmail com>
> *To: *nanog () nanog org
> *Sent: *Friday, May 15, 2020 8:55:22 AM
> *Subject: *Re: Switch for SFP+
>
> Thanks. I am currently using CRS326-24G-2S+ (with routerOS) for this, but
> when I want to do vlan trunking through the bonding, cpu load grows from 3%
> to more than 90%.
> I'm consulting Mikrotik's support in the meantime, because routerOS
> probably doesn't take advantage of the switch hardware as swOS would.
>
> El 15/5/20 a las 10:03, Alain Hebert escribió:
>
>     Hi,
>
>     Mikrotik is a decent product and I'm always amazed at their features
> set, but...
>
>     Using the UI to configuring the switch will punt too much traffic
> toward the CPU.  However, it is possible to configure the switch fabric
> with the cli and attain the desired results.
>
>     It does not compare to a JNP QFX5100 or a Extreme Network x650,
> x670...  etc.
>
> -----
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> On 2020-05-14 15:11, Adam Thompson wrote:
>
> Have you actually looked at Mikrotik switches?  I don't like the OS, but
> the hardware does what you want it to.
>
>
> https://mikrotik.com/products/group/switches?filter&s=c&r={%22sfp_plus_interface%22:{%22s%22:%223%22,%22e%22:%2224%22}}#!
> <https://mikrotik.com/products/group/switches?filter&s=c&r=%7b%22sfp_plus_interface%22:%7b%22s%22:%223%22,%22e%22:%2224%22%7d%7d#!>
>
> If necessary, buy your SFP modules from FS.com and get them coded as
> Mikrotik modules at the factory - that's what we do for Cisco, Brocade,
> Juniper, Extreme, etc.
>
> Even the top-of-the-line Mikrotik only costs US$899.
>
> -Adam
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* NANOG <nanog-bounces () nanog org> <nanog-bounces () nanog org> on
> behalf of Mauro Gasparini <mjgasparini () gmail com> <mjgasparini () gmail com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 14, 2020 8:46:21 AM
> *To:* Mehmet Akcin
> *Cc:* nanog
> *Subject:* Re: Switch for SFP+
>
>
>
> Thank you. The problem is that to get a price lower than U$D 3000 I have
> to resort to a used device.
>
> El 14/5/20 a las 01:08, Mehmet Akcin escribió:
>
> Used Juniper QFX5100-48T will do it. Probably overkill but you can grab
> one cheap @ebay
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 16:36 Mauro Gasparini <mjgasparini () gmail com>
> wrote:
>
> Good afternoon.
>
> I'm looking for a switch with the following capabilities:
> . transport for more than 20 gbps
> . link aggregation LACP
> . slots for SFP+
> . seamlessly when trunking vlans through the link aggregation.
>
> And essentially that doesn't exceed US$D 2000 and is compatible with
> 10GBASE-ER and/or 10GBASE-ZR modules that are not from the vendor itself
> (e.g. SPFs: Huawei, Mikrotik, Sumitomo, OEMs).
>
> If any of you have a good experience with a device that meets these
> requirements (which are minimal with the exception of price and
> compatibility) ?
>
> Regards.
> Mauro Gasparini
>
> --
>
> Mehmet
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