Re: Survey on the use of IP blacklists for threat mitigation

[Ryan Landry <ryan.landry () gmail com>]

J. Hellenthal, thank you for your reply.

I am not in marketing. I represent a team of talented network engineers,
some of which are persons of color and under-represented minorities. I
believe we, as a community, can do better to effect change, and hold each
other accountable to this end. It is a worthy discussion for NANOG to have,
particularly as an industry that has struggled in the areas of diversity
and inclusion.

This may be a great starting point for you on your journey:

https://www.nanog.org/stories/our-commitment-diversity-and-inclusion/
https://www.nanog.org/about/code-conduct/

To the OP - I express my appreciation for acknowledging and adjusting the
language used in your survey.

Regards,
- Ryan
(past NANOG Program Committee Member)

On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 1:08 PM J. Hellenthal <jhellenthal () dataix net>
wrote:

> Guess we all better start rewriting all of the documentation out there
> because some PC marketing snowflake wants to get extra brownie points and
> attention for classifying a color in RGB into a racial divide for which it
> never originated.
>
> blacklists are not always deny/block/disallow and conformed of things that
> allow you to take actions whatever your choosing upon their contents and
> your policies.
>
> What’s next ? redlisting ? Don’t offend the Russians ... blue ? Don’t want
> to offend the police ...
>
> Leave this crap off the list, it’s not helping anyone.
>
> SMH
>
>
> --
>  J. Hellenthal
>
> The fact that there's a highway to Hell but only a stairway to Heaven says
> a lot about anticipated traffic volume.
>
> On Jun 16, 2020, at 13:27, Ryan Landry <ryan.landry () gmail com> wrote:
>
> 
> In kind, I'd like to encourage the use of terms like permit/accept list or
> deny/block list.
>
> Respectfully,
> -Ryan
>
> On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 11:33 AM Rachee Singh <rachee.singh () gmail com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi NANOG community,
> >
> > We are a group of researchers studying the use of IP blacklists as a
> > mechanism to mitigate security threats -- particularly over the IPv6
> > Internet. We would like to understand if and how you use IP blacklists to
> > secure your networks. Please consider taking our short survey:
> > https://forms.gle/ZEsxyiBivJAfLF7e6
> >
> > The survey will be anonymous unless you choose to identify yourself.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Rachee
> > UMass Amherst