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Re: 5G roadblock: labor


From: Ca By <cb.list6 () gmail com>
Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2020 14:11:33 -0800

On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 1:54 PM Sabri Berisha <sabri () cluecentral net> wrote:

----- On Jan 3, 2020, at 1:00 AM, Mark Tinka mark.tinka () seacom mu wrote:

On 2/Jan/20 21:02, Sabri Berisha wrote:


Maybe you're just dating yourself here :) I use video calling on an
almost
daily basis with my family living in another country, 9 timezones away.
My
daughter can spend hours in her ipad "playing" with grandpa, live on
video.

True, but how often are you and daughter "spending hours" on this over
GSM vs. over wi-fi?

That depends on where we are. Most of the time it is at home, over wi-fi.
However, sometimes they chat while my daughter is walking to school. At
some point, I worked in SoCal while the family still lived in the Bay
Area.
Very often, grandpa kept her entertained in the back of the car while
the misses focused on the road ahead of her in the central valley.

But the point was that while some never use video calling, others do so
very
often.

You also wrote:

With all the fibre going into homes, businesses, shops and restaurants,
wi-fi is up-and-to-the-right.

I don't know about you, but I rarely use those. My T-Mobile plan has
unlimited data and coverage is adequate for me. It even works abroad, so
unless I need high speed data I'm fine with the included 256kbps.
Surprisingly, that's good enough for facetime.

I predict that there will be a time where, just like POTS lines were
exchanged for cellular phones, people will disconnect their cable internet
and rely on 6g or 7g alone. And probably still with IPv4 addresses.


You are not using ipv4 today.

The scenario you describe, using facetime (iOS) on T-Mobile US, you are not
using ipv4 on the device.  T-Mobile does not assign ipv4 addresses to iOS
or Android devices in default scenarios, has not for years.

If the far end of your facetime call is v4-only, you may need nat64 in the
cloud.... but otherwise no v4 in the flow, and no v4 on the device.

CB


Thanks,

Sabri



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