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Re: Ipv6 help


From: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via NANOG <nanog () nanog org>
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2020 21:36:15 +0200

Even comparing Mikrotik (volume) vs low-volume purchases in China, there are few much cheaper products offering at 
least the same Mikrotik functions/performance.

 

A few years ago, I was thinking that the cost of the “replacement” of the CPE was too high for most of the operators.  
Not because the CPE itself, but the logistics or actually replacing it.

 

But since a few years, when you put the cost of CGN + IPv4 addresses (or actually just buying “more” IPv4 addresses and 
offering dual-stack without CGN – because the CGN will require you to swap the IPv4 pools just because Sony PSN is 
continuously blacklisting you) versus the lower number of IPv4 addresses needed for 464XLAT and lower number of NAT64 
boxes, in  most cases, it compensates for the cost of replacing the CPEs, and you have additional marketing advantages 
that you can sell  and even charge for them, such as “Now we give you a box with Gigabit ports, greener for the planet 
-  lower power consumption, better WiFi, better security, ready for the future with IPv6,  IPv6 is faster with your 
social networks, youtube and many websites, etc., etc.)

 

Regards,

Jordi

@jordipalet

 

 

 

El 25/8/20 19:46, "NANOG en nombre de Mark Tinka" <nanog-bounces+jordi.palet=consulintel.es () nanog org en nombre de 
mark.tinka () seacom com> escribió:

 

 

On 25/Aug/20 19:36, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via NANOG wrote:

  

 

--- I’ve managed to get better support from vendors which are different than Mikrotik. Some years ago, I even offered 
Mikrotik *free* help to correctly do transition … and I’m still waiting for a single response. I guess they have other 
priorities than IPv6 at all.

 

--- I can buy 10-15 USD CPEs directly from China, with OpenWRT already installed, which have exactly the same design as 
the Mikrotik (same SoC, same number of LAN/WAN ports, etc.).


You're probably right. But if Mikrotik are having great success at meeting the budget of most providers and customers, 
perhaps a different approach is worth considering. Not that you haven't done you utmost best, as I know you to always 
do, Jordi.

I wish I didn't have to deal with Mikrotik either, but reality is far more different. Heck, I even own and use one 
myself, for my home FTTH connection :-).

Mark.





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