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Re: Weekly Routing Table Report
From: John Kristoff <jtk () depaul edu>
Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2019 08:32:18 -0500
On Sat, 31 Aug 2019 10:35:39 +0000 Masataka Ohta <mohta () necom830 hpcl titech ac jp> wrote:
If you can't accept the following principle of the End to End argument:
I think it is better to stick with what the paper refers to them e2e as, an argument. The e2e paper is by far one of the closest things we have to network canon and its reasoning is exceptionally simple and compelling. Yet, these are arguments, not laws. Even the original authors have revisited and questioned the original ideas. The paper also says something about needing a great deal of system implementation detail to intelligently make the choice of where to place functions. I like pointing that out, because it seems people often miss this part in the paper where the only form of the word intelligence is ever used in the paper. Note, I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with any particular position about multihoming in this thread, just trying to argue that the e2e paper is a lot more nuanced than is often presented in debates especially since it has often been used to support opposing views. :-) John
Current thread:
- Re: Weekly Routing Table Report, (continued)
- Re: Weekly Routing Table Report Nick Morrison (Sep 02)
- Re: Weekly Routing Table Report Masataka Ohta (Sep 02)
- Re: Weekly Routing Table Report Seth Mattinen (Sep 02)
- Re: Weekly Routing Table Report Masataka Ohta (Sep 02)
- Re: Weekly Routing Table Report Stephen Satchell (Sep 02)
- Re: Weekly Routing Table Report Masataka Ohta (Sep 01)
- Re: Weekly Routing Table Report howard stearn (Sep 03)
- Re: Weekly Routing Table Report Jared Mauch (Sep 02)
- Re: Weekly Routing Table Report Masataka Ohta (Sep 03)