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Re: BGP over TLS (was: Re: "Using Cloud Resources to Dramatically Improve Internet Routing")
From: Julien Goodwin <nanog () studio442 com au>
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2019 19:21:03 +1100
On 21/10/19 6:30 pm, Bjørn Mork wrote:
Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists () gmail com> writes:isn't julien's idea more akin to DOT then DOH ?Yes, and I really like Julien's proposal. It even looks pretty complete. There are just a few details missing around how to make the MD5 => TLS transition smooth.
At least for those systems that run on Linux (which is most all of the major's except Juniper) I suspect if we went to the relevant kernel folk with a clear plan on how handling TCP-MD5 in a way that would make transitions much easier they'd listen. The troll response at the top of my post was actually based on a response from one of the kernel folk, who dislike TCP options even more than network operators.
Sorry for any confusion caused by an attempt to make a joke on DoH. I didn't anticipate the sudden turn to serious discussion :-) Which obviously was a good one. I am all for BGP over TLS, so let's discuss https://laptop006.livejournal.com/60532.html
If anyone is at all interested in this I'm happy to discuss and flesh out anything that's not clear. After I wrote this (over a few bottles of red on the flight to linux.conf.au this year) I sent it to a bunch of people that had expressed interest, including a few BGP implementations, but nobody bit.
Current thread:
- Re: "Using Cloud Resources to Dramatically Improve Internet Routing", (continued)
- Re: "Using Cloud Resources to Dramatically Improve Internet Routing" Rich Kulawiec (Oct 07)
- RE: "Using Cloud Resources to Dramatically Improve Internet Routing" Keith Medcalf (Oct 07)
- Re: "Using Cloud Resources to Dramatically Improve Internet Routing" J. Hellenthal via NANOG (Oct 08)
- Re: "Using Cloud Resources to Dramatically Improve Internet Routing" Dennis Lundström (Oct 10)
- Re: "Using Cloud Resources to Dramatically Improve Internet Routing" Rich Kulawiec (Oct 07)
- Re: "Using Cloud Resources to Dramatically Improve Internet Routing" Hank Nussbacher (Oct 07)
- Re: "Using Cloud Resources to Dramatically Improve Internet Routing" Bjørn Mork (Oct 20)
- Re: "Using Cloud Resources to Dramatically Improve Internet Routing" Julien Goodwin (Oct 20)
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- Re: "Using Cloud Resources to Dramatically Improve Internet Routing" Bjørn Mork (Oct 20)
- Re: "Using Cloud Resources to Dramatically Improve Internet Routing" Christopher Morrow (Oct 20)
- BGP over TLS (was: Re: "Using Cloud Resources to Dramatically Improve Internet Routing") Bjørn Mork (Oct 21)
- Re: BGP over TLS (was: Re: "Using Cloud Resources to Dramatically Improve Internet Routing") Julien Goodwin (Oct 21)
- RE: BGP over TLS (was: Re: "Using Cloud Resources to Dramatically Improve Internet Routing") Keith Medcalf (Oct 21)
- Re: BGP over TLS (was: Re: "Using Cloud Resources to Dramatically Improve Internet Routing") Radu-Adrian Feurdean (Oct 21)
- RE: BGP over TLS Robert McKay (Oct 21)
- RE: BGP over TLS Keith Medcalf (Oct 21)
- Re: BGP over TLS Joe Abley (Oct 21)
- Re: BGP over TLS Tony Finch (Oct 21)
- Re: BGP over TLS Jared Mauch (Oct 21)
- Re: BGP over TLS Grant Taylor via NANOG (Oct 21)
- Re: BGP over TLS Julien Goodwin (Oct 22)
- Re: BGP over TLS Christopher Morrow (Oct 22)