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Re: Comcast outages continue even in areas with PG&E power restored
From: Michael Thomas <mike () mtcc com>
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2019 12:51:49 -0700
On 10/16/19 12:09 PM, Jeff Shultz wrote:
This is all very interesting, and thanks to everybody for giving me an education. My provider is very small as well, and spread out over a pretty large area (i'm in amador county in the mother lode). I don't know how many remote terminals they have, but i would think that it would be a lot. And if they need to be recharged every 8 hours or so, you'd be talking about a lot of people out in the field just to keep the lights on, right? And of course it takes time to recharge a battery too, so that makes it even worse. It seems that would be a pretty significant recurring cost.Interesting! And so primitive! So they go to all of the expense of laying fiber, but not power too?Note: small local telco experience speaking below: Telco's tend to have experience with fiber, but probably not the construction and transmission of the sort of power plant that would be required to keep a bunch of 48V cabinets up and running reliably. We certainly don't. Besides, an advantage of fiber is that hopefully the copper thieves won't bother it. By definition a remote terminal/cabinet is going to be... remote. Far more simple to install commercial power, and then haul out a generator if the battery string in the cabinet appears to be in danger of dropping below about 46v. We do run some 360v DC at micro-amp levels out to equipment like ONT's and remote 12 and 48 port remote VDSLAM's. But that's over existing 24-26 ga. plant. Frequently using multiple pairs to avoid excessive voltage drop over distances. Primitive is tested and works.
How many watts does a typical remote terminal draw per subscriber? Mike
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- Comcast outages continue even in areas with PG&E power restored Sean Donelan (Oct 11)
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- Re: Comcast outages continue even in areas with PG&E power restored Michael Thomas (Oct 14)
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- Re: Comcast outages continue even in areas with PG&E power restored Michael Thomas (Oct 14)
- Re: Comcast outages continue even in areas with PG&E power restored Jeff Shultz (Oct 16)
- Re: Comcast outages continue even in areas with PG&E power restored Michael Thomas (Oct 16)
- Re: Comcast outages continue even in areas with PG&E power restored Michael Thomas (Oct 16)
- Re: Comcast outages continue even in areas with PG&E power restored Jeff Shultz (Oct 16)
- Re: Comcast outages continue even in areas with PG&E power restored Brandon Martin (Oct 16)
- Re: Comcast outages continue even in areas with PG&E power restored Michael Thomas (Oct 11)
- Re: Comcast outages continue even in areas with PG&E power restored Brandon Martin (Oct 14)
- Re: Comcast outages continue even in areas with PG&E power restored Michael Thomas (Oct 14)
- Re: Comcast outages continue even in areas with PG&E power restored Brandon Martin (Oct 14)
- Re: Comcast outages continue even in areas with PG&E power restored Michael Thomas (Oct 15)
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