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Re: NTP question


From: Harlan Stenn <stenn () nwtime org>
Date: Wed, 1 May 2019 19:30:16 -0700

Hi Keith,

On 5/1/19 6:17 PM, Keith Medcalf wrote:

If your network is air gapped from the Internet then sure. If it's
not, you can run NTP against a reasonably reliable set of time
sources (not random picks from Pool) and be able to say, "my log
timestamps are accurate to +/- 10 milliseconds so it must be you who
is farked up." While my milliseconds loses the pecking order contest,
it's just as good for practical purposes and a whole lot less
expensive.

You mean something like this, which is relatively easy to achieve:

==============================================================================
offset -0.000009, frequency -0.823, time_const 30, watchdog 238
synchronised to NTP server (192.5.41.40) at stratum 2
   time correct to within 12 ms
   polling server every 1024 s
==============================================================================
     remote           refid      st t when poll reach   delay   offset  jitter
==============================================================================
+clock.sjc.he.ne .CDMA.           1 u  287 1024  377   64.313    0.337   0.867
-tock.usnogps.na .IRIG.           1 u    5 1024  377  103.080   -2.097   0.316
-tick.usnogps.na .IRIG.           1 u  806 1024  377  103.053   -2.328   0.363
+india.colorado. .NIST.           1 u  270 1024  377   41.214   -0.159   0.113
+time-b-b.nist.g .NIST.           1 u  984 1024  377   42.609    0.200   0.045
+time-c-b.nist.g .NIST.           1 u  180 1024  377   42.563    0.201   0.064
+time-a-b.nist.g .NIST.           1 u  163 1024  377   42.639    0.137   0.032
*192.5.41.40     .PTP.            1 u  235 1024  377   12.756   -0.388  12.479
-192.5.41.41     .IRIG.           1 u  312 1024  377   13.575   -1.172   2.425
 LOCAL(0)        .LOCL.          10 l    -   64    0    0.000    0.000   0.000
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
pll offset:           -8.474e-06 s
pll frequency:        -0.823 ppm
maximum error:        0.123149 s
estimated error:      0.000122 s
status:               2001  pll nano
pll time constant:    10
precision:            1e-09 s
frequency tolerance:  500 ppm
==============================================================================

That all looks great except for the LOCAL clock at S10.  In the event
you lose connectivity to the outside, this system will jump from S2 to
S10.  Depending on the setup of your other systems, groups of them will
go sailing off in their own directions.

http://support.ntp.org/bin/view/Support/OrphanMode is the better solution.

If you cannot do that for some reason, please see the "Dual Time
Servers" case at
http://support.ntp.org/bin/view/Support/UndisciplinedLocalClock .

-- 
Harlan Stenn <stenn () nwtime org>
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