Re: SHAKEN/STIR Robocall Summit - July 11 2019 at FCC

[Ross Tajvar <ross () tajvar io>]

What if you use different carriers for termination and origination? How
does your termination carrier validate that your origination carrier has
allocated certain numbers to you and that you're therefore allowed to make
outbound calls with a caller ID set to those numbers? That doesn't sound to
me like something that can be solved as quickly and easily as you imply.

On Thu, Jul 11, 2019, 2:33 PM Keith Medcalf <kmedcalf () dessus com> wrote:

> On Thursday, 11 July, 2019 11:18, Christopher Morrow <
> morrowc.lists () gmail com> wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 12:00 PM Paul Timmins <paul () telcodata us> wrote:
>
> > > Chris it would be trivial for this to be fixed, nearly overnight,
> > > by creating some liability on the part of carriers for illicit use of
> > > caller ID data on behalf of their customers.
>
> > 'illicit use of caller id' - how is caller-id being illicitly used
> > though?
> > I don't think it's against the law to say a different 'callerid' in
> > the call session, practically every actual call center does this, right?
>
> The problem is that CallerID is not really the CallerID.  It is some
> fraudulent shit created by the caller.  This is not how "CallerID" was
> originally sold.  It was sold as being the ID of the Caller.  If it is not
> the ID of the Caller then Fraud is being committed and the bastards should
> be castrated (or worse), and the CEO and Directors of the carrier
> responsible for fraud getting through to the end-user should face the same
> penalty.
>
> See then how quickly this gets fixed.  You will fall off your chair and it
> will be a "solved problem" before your arse hits the ground!
>
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