Re: IP Dslams

[Colton Conor <colton.conor () gmail com>]

Indstead of using a  Vega 3050 for voice I would just get a DSLAM with a
Combo card, and be done with it. VDSL2+ ports plus SIP FXS all on the same
card. With that you get metalic testing which would be good for your
situation.

How many units are you talking about? Do you have access to Coaxial cable?

On Tue, Jan 1, 2019 at 6:31 AM Nick Edwards <nick.z.edwards () gmail com>
wrote:

> drats that last @ should have been to Colton, my apologies...
>
> I have in past used dlink and planet dslams as they were back then dirt
> cheap, I guess I might have to look at a small mikrotik device that can do
> all my requirements, just trying to use the KISS approach, as I'm the
> contractor installing it and wont be the one running it on a day to day
> as-needed basis, thats their admissions staff who will add/delete them
>
> On Tue, Jan 1, 2019 at 10:19 PM Nick Edwards <nick.z.edwards () gmail com>
> wrote:
>
> > Firstly, thanks everyone for replies.
> >
> > @Carl:  ADSL2 dslams would no doubt be cheaper than VDSL for retirement
> > village, and as a retirement village, residents must be 65+, therefor, they
> > wont have high bandwidth needs, based on their other much older properties,
> > their residents use between 2 and 15GB a month, with an average of 5GB, so
> > VDSL -if not the same cost as ADSL2 dslams, would be a waste, and from my
> > experience ADSL2 is more stable over distances, where the furthest villas
> > are 800 meters away from comms room.
> >
> > As for phones, we are installing a PBXact1000, and for the villas, we
> > will be using a bunch of Vega 3050 50 port Analogue gateways talking to it.
> > These villas are stand alone duplexes, so running ethernet is not feasible
> > They have a PMS which takes care of billing, although if they do what do at
> > other places they run, residents are usually given a 30 dollar a month call
> > credit which is likely included in their monthly "complex maintenance" fees.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 1, 2019 at 8:12 AM Colton Conor <colton.conor () gmail com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Carl,
> > >
> > > What did you select to replace your MX BNG?
> > >
> > > To Nick, we use Adtran Total Access 5000's today. They work fine, but if
> > > I was doing a new install I would do Calix with their newer lines that have
> > > SDN BNG functions. Calix just has better CPE to go along with it, but they
> > > are just G.Fast and ethernet only CPE's.
> > >
> > > Why only ADSL2+?
> > >
> > > What are you doing for voice?
> > >
> > > Do you have access to Coax cable? If so I would do a small 32x10 CMTS
> > > with cable modem. Much cheaper and future proof.
> > >
> > > On Mon, Dec 31, 2018 at 3:47 PM Carl Peterson <
> > > carl-lists () portnetworks com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I'd consider breaking down the two functions.
> > > > Set up your customer connections using ADSL Ethernet, etc and put each
> > > > unit in the building on its own CVLAN.  This should never change even when
> > > > the subscribers in the unit change.  This way you can configure it once and
> > > > never touch it again.  I'd use Calix G.fast but I have no idea what your
> > > > budget/wiring looks like and I'm not sure where their e3-48 and E5-48 are
> > > > in general availability.
> > > >
> > > > Then hand the SVLAN with all the CVLANs off to the BNG and authenticate
> > > > the circuits using IPoE.  Waystream has an ASR6000 switch with BNG
> > > > functionalities (I've never used it, just came across it when looking for
> > > > other options to replace my MX BNG.
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Dec 31, 2018 at 1:15 PM Nick Edwards <nick.z.edwards () gmail com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Howdy,
> > > > > We have a requirement for an aged care facility to provide voice and
> > > > > data, we have the voice worked out, but data, WiFi is out of the question,
> > > > > so are looking for IP-Dslams, preferably a system that is all-in-one, or
> > > > > self contained, as in contains its own BBRAS/LNS/PPP server/Radius, such as
> > > > > has a property managment API, or even just a webpage manager where admin
> > > > > can add in new residents when they arive, or delete when they depart I know
> > > > > these used to be available  many years ago, but that vendor has like many
> > > > > vanished, only requirement is for ADSL2+, prefer units with either 48 ports
> > > > > or multiples of (192 etc) and have filtered voice out ports (telco50/rj21
> > > > > etc)
> > > > >
> > > > > If anyone knows of such units, would appreciate some details on them,
> > > > > brand/model suppliers if known, etc, we can try get out google fu back if
> > > > > we have some steering:)
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank Y'all
> > > > >
> > > > > (resent - original never made it to the list for some gremlin reason)