Re: IP Dslams

[Blake Hudson <blake () ispn net>]

I was thinking the same thing. They're a few years out of support, but 
the Zhone 42xx IP DSLAM provides a 1Gbps ethernet uplink and 24 ADSL2+ 
DSL user ports per 1U chassis (stackable to achieve 192 ports total). 
Wish they were available in AC for non-telco use.
http://support.zhone.com/support/manuals/docs/42/4200-A2-GN21-40.pdf

You could pair these with a pfSense appliance (or an x86 PC running the 
free software) to provide DHCP, DNS, etc - or use the built in pfSense 
captive portal to provide additional authentication and accounting per 
user. pfSense can provide NAT and FW if needed, or these features can be 
disabled to use globally routable IP4/IP6 addresses.

As far as support goes, backup your pfsense and DLSAM configs when you 
finish the project and the subscriber accounts and DSL modems could be 
maintained by a local admin through the pfSense web interface with no 
need to touch the DSLAMs or anything CLI.

--Blake

Shawn L via NANOG wrote on 1/4/2019 8:59 AM:
> Might want to look for old Zhone ip bitstorm dslams.  There should be 
> a bunch on the used market.  They do all of the ATM conversions 
> internally so you just need to feed them with ethernet.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Nick Edwards" <nick.z.edwards () gmail com>
> Sent: Friday, January 4, 2019 9:36am
> To: "Brandon Martin" <lists.nanog () monmotha net>
> Cc: "NANOG" <nanog () nanog org>
> Subject: Re: IP Dslams
>
> They don't have a large budget and although I'm yet to get prices on 
> adtran's (understandable, holidays 'n all) I doubt it will fit within 
> their budget, it's looking more like getting a few planet dslams and 
> configuring a linux box as the bng, been 10 years since I've had to do 
> that kind of setup, memories hazy, but I know it worked, and well, so 
> thanks to all for suggestions but the adtrans and nokias are not for 
> those on shoe string budgets, which wouldnt even allow me to include 
> an asr1k for the bng, and although it would allow for, I'd rather not 
> grab an ebay 7200/7300 :)
>
> On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 10:52 PM Brandon Martin 
> <lists.nanog () monmotha net <mailto:lists.nanog () monmotha net>> wrote:
>
>     On 1/2/19 6:47 AM, Nick Edwards wrote:
>     > There are 260 villas, and no coax.
>
>     Is there a logical way to distribute the termination?  You might
>     be able
>     to get better performance (not that you perhaps care, in this
>     case) at
>     minimal additional cost if you can do building-local termination
>     of each
>     customer circuit and then backhaul on e.g. bonded VDSL2 or G.FAST
>     over
>     shorter distances (perhaps hopping building to building).
>
>     I'm assuming there's no data grade copper or fiber if there's no
>     coax.
>     Obviously if you've got those, distributed termination makes even
>     more
>     sense.
>
>     If you do want a centralized solution, an Adtran TA5006 (the small
>     chassis) with 6x 48 port VDSL2 combo modules (with or without
>     vectoring,
>     depending on your needs) would do the job (though it fills the
>     chassis
>     and doesn't allow for expansion, so the full-size TA5000 may be
>     desirable).  I've played (and am playing with) the same system but
>     with
>     GPON termination and have been happy with it so far.
>     -- 
>     Brandon Martin