Re: 5G roadblock: labor

[Mike Hammett <nanog () ics-il net>]

Oh, for sure it's driven by equipment manufacturers. 




----- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

Midwest-IX 
http://www.midwest-ix.com 

----- Original Message -----

From: "Christopher Morrow" <morrowc.lists () gmail com> 
To: "Brian J. Murrell" <brian () interlinx bc ca> 
Cc: "nanog list" <nanog () nanog org> 
Sent: Monday, December 30, 2019 4:39:23 PM 
Subject: Re: 5G roadblock: labor 

On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 4:11 PM Brian J. Murrell <brian () interlinx bc ca> wrote: 
> On Mon, 2019-12-30 at 09:50 -0500, Shane Ronan wrote: 
> > Also, keep in mind that 10 years ago, you didn't know you would want 
> > or 
> > need 25mbits to your phone, 
>
> Who needs 25mbits to their phone? 

this is the wrong argument to make... or at the least it distracts 
from the conversation about: "Why 5g?" because everyone can come up 
with a reason for/against N mbps to Xthing. (I think this is sort of 
shane's point, actually) 

4G/LTE: 
o started the migration/consolidation of voice/video/data to a 
single bearer (well, IP anyway). 
o moved the (ideally) IP endpoint closer to the tower base 
o removed some latency, jitter, intermediaries between 'End-User' 
and "thing on the network" 

5G: 
o supposedly reduces latency 'more' (brings more of the IP 
connection and routing closer to the tower/radio?) 
o simplifies management? (maybe?) 

keeping speed out of the conversation, the footprint for MANY 5g 
deploymetns in the US (and elsewhere) is likely 'hundreds of feet 
circles', where 4G is 'miles'. 
(yes you can beam-form and make ovals and such...) 

It'd be nice to see what benefits 5g really has for carriers and 
consumers/users... It looks, to me, like a bunch of the 5g hype is 
really: "uhm, we need to sell these carriers on the G++ ... spin up 
the hype machine about speed!" never mind the cost to deploy, range of 
deployment, changes in handset/radio gear / etc... more $ to the 
vendors! 

-chris