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Re: ARIN RPKI TAL deployment issues
From: John Curran <jcurran () arin net>
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2018 11:07:49 +0000
On 26 Sep 2018, at 6:42 AM, Tony Finch <dot () dotat at> wrote:
John Curran <jcurran () arin net> wrote:On 26 Sep 2018, at 2:09 AM, Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists () gmail com<mailto:morrowc.lists () gmail com>> wrote:how is arin's problem here different from that which 'lets encrypt' is facing with their Cert things?The “Let’s encrypt” subscriber agreement (current version 1.2, 15 Nov 2018) includes "indemnify and hold harmless” clause, and parties affirmatively agree to those terms by requesting that ISRG issue a "Let’s Encrypt” Certificate to you.The difference is that the Let's Encrypt agreement is for people obtaining certificates from them. The ARIN equivalent would be the agreement for ARIN members. Let's Encrypt does not require an agreement from relying parties (i.e. browser users), whereas ARIN does.
Tony - That is correct; I did not say that they were parallel situations, only pointing out that the Let’s Encrypt folks also go beyond simply providing services “as is”, and require indemnification from those engaging their CA services, just as ARIN, RIPE, APNIC do… ARIN and APNIC go further by having indemnification by parties using information in the CA; in ARIN’s case, this requires an explicit act of acceptance to be legally valid. Thanks! /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN
Current thread:
- Re: ARIN RPKI TAL deployment issues, (continued)
- Re: ARIN RPKI TAL deployment issues Jared Mauch (Sep 25)
- Re: ARIN RPKI TAL deployment issues John Curran (Sep 25)
- Re: ARIN RPKI TAL deployment issues Christopher Morrow (Sep 25)
- Re: ARIN RPKI TAL deployment issues John Curran (Sep 26)
- Re: ARIN RPKI TAL deployment issues Jared Mauch (Sep 26)
- Re: ARIN RPKI TAL deployment issues John Curran (Sep 26)
- Re: ARIN RPKI TAL deployment issues Jared Mauch (Sep 26)
- Re: ARIN RPKI TAL deployment issues John Curran (Sep 26)
- Re: ARIN RPKI TAL deployment issues Claudio Jeker (Sep 26)
- Re: ARIN RPKI TAL deployment issues Tony Finch (Sep 26)
- Re: ARIN RPKI TAL deployment issues John Curran (Sep 26)
- Re: ARIN RPKI TAL deployment issues Job Snijders (Sep 26)
- Re: ARIN RPKI TAL deployment issues John Curran (Sep 26)
- Re: ARIN RPKI TAL deployment issues Tony Finch (Sep 26)
- Re: ARIN RPKI TAL deployment issues John Curran (Sep 26)
- Re: ARIN RPKI TAL deployment issues Baldur Norddahl (Sep 26)
- Re: ARIN RPKI TAL deployment issues John Curran (Sep 26)
- Re: ARIN RPKI TAL deployment issues Christopher Morrow (Sep 26)
- Re: ARIN RPKI TAL deployment issues Benson Schliesser via NANOG (Sep 26)
- Re: ARIN RPKI TAL deployment issues John Curran (Sep 26)