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Re: ARIN RPKI TAL deployment issues


From: Benson Schliesser via NANOG <nanog () nanog org>
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2018 01:14:20 -0400

Hi, John.

On Tue, Sep 25, 2018, 22:56 John Curran <jcurran () arin net> wrote:


Indeed - In the process of complying with a different legal environment,
ARIN sometimes has to behave differently than RIRs that are located
elsewhere...

[...]

The significant difference for ARIN is that we operate under a different
legal regime, and as a matter of US law, it appears that we cannot rely
only upon terms and conditions published in our website as evidence of
informed agreement; i.e. within the US legal framework, we need a specific
act of acceptance in order to have a binding agreement.


Without venturing too far off topic, can you briefly compare this situation
versus e.g. licensing of open source software? Often, such software is
(apparently) licensed without express agreement - using bundled license
files, comments inside source files, etc - and seems to accommodate the IPR
and liability needs of developers and their supporting organizations. Is it
ARIN's understanding that this approach is not useful for RPKI data in the
US, etc?

In any case, I also look forward to hearing the Overcoming Legal Barriers
to RPKI Adoption talk next week (on Monday afternoon, IIRC), and I hope
that the Q&A discussion (and evening follow-up) will be helpful.

Thanks,
-Benson

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