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Re: Proving Gig Speed


From: Mike Hammett <nanog () ics-il net>
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 10:00:48 -0500 (CDT)

The game companies (and render farms) also need to work on as extensive peering as the top CDNs have been doing. 
They're getting better, but not quite there yet. 




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Mike Hammett 
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From: "K. Scott Helms" <kscott.helms () gmail com> 
To: "mark tinka" <mark.tinka () seacom mu> 
Cc: "NANOG list" <nanog () nanog org> 
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2018 9:58:09 AM 
Subject: Re: Proving Gig Speed 

Peering isn't the problem. Proximity to content is. 

Netflix, Google, Akamai and a few others have presence in Africa already. 
So those aren't the problem (although for those currently in Africa, not 
all of the services they offer globally are available here - just a few). 

A lot of user traffic is not video streaming, so that's where a lot of 
work is required. In particular, cloud and gaming operators are the ones 
causing real pain. 

All the peering in the world doesn't help if the latency is well over 
100ms+. That's what we need to fix. 

Mark. 


Mark, 

I agree completely, I'm working on a paper right now for a conference 
(waiting on Wireshark to finish with my complex filter at the moment) that 
shows what's happening with gaming traffic. What's really interesting is 
how gaming is changing and within the next few years I do expect a lot of 
games to move into the remote rendering world. I've tested several and the 
numbers are pretty substantial. You need to have <=30 ms of latency to 
sustain 1080p gaming and obviously jitter and packet loss are also 
problematic. The traffic is also pretty impressive with spikes of over 50 
mbps down and sustained averages over 21 mbps. Upstream traffic isn't any 
more of an issue than "normal" online gaming. Nvidia, Google, and a host 
of start ups are all in the mix with a lot of people predicting Sony and 
Microsoft will be (or are already) working on pure cloud consoles. 

Scott Helms 


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