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Re: Proving Gig Speed


From: "K. Scott Helms" <kscott.helms () gmail com>
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 10:22:26 -0400

Mark,

I am glad I don't have your challenges :)

What's the Netflix (or other substantial OTT video provider) situation for
direct peers?  It's pretty easy and cheap for North American operators to
get settlement free peering to Netflix, Amazon, Youtube and others but I
don't know what that looks like in Africa.

Scott Helms

On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 10:00 AM Mark Tinka <mark.tinka () seacom mu> wrote:



On 18/Jul/18 15:41, K. Scott Helms wrote:



That's why I vastly prefer stats from the actual CDNs and content
providers that aren't generated by speed tests.  They're generated by
measuring the actual performance of the service they deliver.  Now, that
won't prevent burden shifting, but it does get rid of a lot of the problems
you bring up.  Youtube for example wouldn't rate a video stream as good if
the packet loss were high because it's actually looking at the bit rate of
successfully delivered encapsulated video frames I _think_ the same is true
of Netflix though they also offer a real time test as well which frankly
isn't as helpful for monitoring but getting a quick test to the Netflix
node you'd normally use can be nice in some cases.


Agreed.

In our market, we've generally not struggled with users and their
experience for services hosted locally in-country.

So in addition to providing good tools for operators and eyeballs to
measure experience, the biggest win will come from the content folk and
CDN's getting their services inside our market.

Mark.




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