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Re: California fires: smart speakers and emergency alerts


From: Sean Donelan <sean () donelan com>
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2018 14:14:20 -0400 (EDT)

Heavy sigh. Its not about AM radios, although some tinkers have hooked up raspberry pi's to weather band radio chips. Its a cool hack, but not the point.

Today, 99% of emergency alerts are diissiminated via the Internet, in addition to other channels (over the air broadcasters, cable, twitter, even Google maps and Google search show emergency alerts, etc). You don't want a single dissimination method. You want diversity of warning channels.

For example, only 77 cell phone companies participate in Wireless Alerts. While you are roaming on another carrier's tower, even if your home carrier participates, your current roaming tower might not transmit any wireless alerts about that wildfire heading your way.
https://www.fcc.gov/pshs/docs/services/cmas/WEACarrierRegistry121313.xls

Nonparticipating cell phone companies are required to inform customers at the point of sale they do not provide wireless alerts. Roaming customers often don't know.

The point of the study in proposed bill is customers of Netflix and Spotify (just to pick on them because everyone seems too) watching videos on "Smart TVs" or listening on "Smart Speakers" may not realize those devices won't get emergency alerts like their old-fashion AM/FM radios and over-the-air TVs. If Netflix or Spotify customers are watching or listening on their "Smart Phones", they do get emergency alerts from the cell phone provider.

Much like watching Netflix and listening to Spotify on smart phones, Netflix and Spotify do not control the alert function on Smart TVs and Smart Speakers. The alarm API of smart devices is predominately controlled by Amazon Alexa (34%), Google Assistant (34%), Apple Siri (10%), and others (21%). The message waiting notification API isn't a real substitute for an emergency alert API.

Even if you created a new Internet of Thing warning device, that device would still have to work in the ecosystems controlled by Amazon Alexa, Google Assistant, Apple Siri. The API product managers at Amazon, Google and Apple make those decisions.

Netflix and Spotify -- wrong place for emergency alerts, over the top content doesn't know what else is happening with the user interface on the smart device.

Internet Service Providers -- wrong place for emergency alerts, too low in communication layers to break in. ISPs keep wanting to insert advertisements in web pages -- bad idea.

Smart device APIs (Alexa, Google Assistant, Apple Siri) already mediate user interaction. The "intelligent assistant" seems like the best place for the user to control how they receive emergency alerts.



On Wed, 1 Aug 2018, Jeff Shultz wrote:
If someone wants that sort of thing... does anyone still make AM
transistor radios?
Capitalist solution: Build yet another IoT device that just does emergency
alerting.
Please no.  The IoT is already a security/privacy dumpster fire of enormous
proportions and this will provide yet another vector for attacks.


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