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Re: Broadcast television in an IP world


From: Greg Shepherd <gjshep () gmail com>
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2017 09:31:41 -0800

Multicast is not PIM. PIM is dead.

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc8279/

Significantly reduces the cost and complexity of network replication. Soon
to be on the standards track. What can't BIER do?

-shep

On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 8:58 AM, Mike Hammett <nanog () ics-il net> wrote:

of the TV they use... through you. That doesn't count OTA, cable,
satellite, etc.

It won't change significantly any time soon. I know things are changing,
but it'll still take five or ten years for those changes to significantly
change traffic patterns.




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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

Midwest-IX
http://www.midwest-ix.com

----- Original Message -----

From: "Baldur Norddahl" <baldur.norddahl () gmail com>
To: nanog () nanog org
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2017 10:52:09 AM
Subject: Re: Broadcast television in an IP world

Den 21. nov. 2017 16.20 skrev "Mike Hammett" <nanog () ics-il net>:

Unicasting what everyone watches live on a random evening would use
significantly more bandwidth than Game of Thrones or whatever OTT drop.
Magnitudes more. It wouldn't even be in the same ballpark.



I agree as of this moment however that will change. Also note that our
customers do 100% of their TV as unicast OTT because that is the only thing
we offer. This does not cause nearly as much problems as you would expect.




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