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Re: Waste will kill ipv6 too


From: Mark Andrews <marka () isc org>
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2017 09:22:45 +1100

And /48 was chosen as the site size so that we didn’t have to think about that either.  It’s large enough to cover 
almost all sites with additional /48s to be provided if you run out of /64s. 

Nothing in the last 20+ years has lead me to believe that these decisions were wrong.  In fact NOT following these 
rules has consequences for everybody else as you can’t policy filter at the /48 boundary without collateral damage.  I 
would recommend that all ISP’s using longer prefixes for customer assignment shorten them to /48s.

Mark

On 29 Dec 2017, at 8:35 am, Owen DeLong <owen () delong com> wrote:

Sigh… Let’s stop with the IPv4-think.

Wasting 2^64 addresses was intentional because the original plan was for a 64-bit total
address and the additional 64 bits was added to make universal 64-bit subnets a no-brainer.

Owen

On Dec 28, 2017, at 09:55 , Michael Crapse <michael () wi-fiber io> wrote:

Yes, let's talk about waste, Lets waste 2^64 addresses for a ptp.
If that was ipv4 you could recreate the entire internet with that many addresses.

On 28 December 2017 at 10:39, Owen DeLong <owen () delong com <mailto:owen () delong com>> wrote:

On Dec 28, 2017, at 09:23 , Octavio Alvarez <octalnanog () alvarezp org <mailto:octalnanog () alvarezp org>> wrote:

On 12/20/2017 12:23 PM, Mike wrote:
On 12/17/2017 08:31 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote:
Call this the 'shavings', in IPv4 for example, when you assign a P2P
link with a /30, you are using 2 and wasting 2 addresses. But in IPv6,
due to ping-pong and just so many technical manuals and other advices,
you are told to "just use a /64' for your point to points.

Isn't it a /127 nowadays, per RFC 6547 and RFC 6164? I guess the
exception would be if a router does not support it.

Best regards,
Octavio.

Best practice used most places is to assign a /64 and put a /127 on the interfaces.

Owen





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