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Re: Geolocation: IPv4 Subnet blocked by HULU, and others


From: Brett A Mansfield <lists () silverlakeinternet com>
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2017 16:17:20 -0700

I had some of that subnet from logicweb. Once I realized it was Afrinic I switched. Now I have the same issue with 
another subnet from ARIN. 104.153.151.0/24 is all blocked still and I cannot get anyone from any of the companies to 
respond or unblock them.

Thank you,
Brett A Mansfield

On Dec 27, 2017, at 4:06 PM, Mark Andrews <marka () isc org> wrote:


On 28 Dec 2017, at 9:38 am, Jima <nanog () jima us> wrote:

On 2017-12-27 14:10, Jared Mauch wrote:
On Dec 27, 2017, at 3:50 PM, Grant Taylor via NANOG <nanog () nanog org> wrote:
Doesn't Hulu (et al) have an obligation to provide service to their paying customers?

Does this obligation extend to providing service independent of the carrier that paying customers uses?

Or if Hulu choose to exclude known problem carriers (i.e. VPN providers) don't they have an obligation to confirm 
that their exclusions are accurate?  Further, to correct problems if their data is shown to be inaccurate?
I have a suspicion that these folks acquired IP space that was previously marked as part of a VPN provider, or Hulu 
is detecting it wrongly as VPN provider IP space.

I was sitting on this, but what the heck.

I personally am curious as to what bug and/or feature allowed a random WISP in Utah (or the parent-ish ISP in New 
Jersey) to have IP space allocated from AfriNIC.

One might consider Hulu et al not so at-fault with that fact in consideration.

- Jima

If you need IPv4 address space you get it where you can.  There are lots of addresses used outside of the original 
RIR service regions.  This will occur more and more often.

What it does require is the State AG to come into bat for the customer to make HULU correct their business practices 
as that are obviously broken. You should be able to buy you internet service from anyone in the state and it should 
work equally well subject to bandwidth limitations. This is a consumer rights issue and it needs to be driven that 
way.

inetnum:        196.53.96.0 - 196.53.99.255
netname:        LogicWeb
descr:          Wi-Fiber, Inc.
descr:          775 S Main St.
descr:          Logan, UT 84321
country:        US
admin-c:        CA12-AFRINIC
tech-c:         CA12-AFRINIC
status:         ASSIGNED PA
mnt-by:         LOGICWEB-MNT
source:         AFRINIC # Filtered
parent:         196.52.0.0 - 196.55.255.255

person:         Chad Abizeid
address:        LogicWeb Inc.
address:        4509 Steeplechase Dr.
address:        Easton, PA 18040
address:        USA
phone:          +1 866 611 1556
org:            ORG-LWI1-AFRINIC
nic-hdl:        CA12-AFRINIC
mnt-by:         LOGICWEB-MNT
source:         AFRINIC # Filtered
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Mark Andrews, ISC
1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia
PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742              INTERNET: marka () isc org




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