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Re: Novice sysadmins (was: Suggestions for a more privacy conscious email provider)
From: amuse <nanog-amuse () foofus com>
Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2017 10:15:59 -0800
Back in the day, only Ph.D's used the internet, so they were the sysadmins. These days, I recommend that system administration be only allowed for card-holding responsible people who have proven their technical abilities. Then, when you get awarded your Ph.D, they can take your sysadmin card back. On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 8:33 AM, Leo Bicknell <bicknell () ufp org> wrote:
In a message written on Tue, Dec 05, 2017 at 06:49:43AM -0800, Stephen Satchell wrote:The NSF in particular ran the 'Net like bouncers do in a strip club: you break the rules, you go. No argument.I'm not sure I've ever seen a more inaccurate description of the NSF. What in the world are you talking about?The original trust model for the Internet was based on this unrelenting oversight. You didn't expect Bad Things(tm) because the consequences of doing them was so severe: banishment and exile. Also, the technical ability required to do Bad Things(tm) wasn't easily won. Accessing the 'Net was a PRIVILEGE, not a right. Abuse at your own peril.Oh wait, you took the BS to a new level. There was no banishment and exile. This was before we knew of buffer overflows, spoofing, and so on. I remember the weekly sendmail buffer overrun bugs, the finger back bombs, the rlogin spoofing attacks. Turns out bored college students were very good at creating mischeff. There was no banishment. There were plenty of bad things.Ok, I'll shut up now.Good plan. -- Leo Bicknell - bicknell () ufp org PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/
Current thread:
- Re: Novice sysadmins, (continued)
- Re: Novice sysadmins Michael Thomas (Dec 06)
- Re: Novice sysadmins Stephen Satchell (Dec 06)
- Re: Novice sysadmins Leo Bicknell (Dec 06)
- Re: Novice sysadmins Harald Koch (Dec 06)
- Re: Novice sysadmins Chuck Anderson (Dec 06)
- Re: Novice sysadmins William Herrin (Dec 06)
- Re: Novice sysadmins Sam Oduor (Dec 06)
- Re: Novice sysadmins Miles Fidelman (Dec 06)
- Re: Novice sysadmins Jason Hellenthal (Dec 06)
- Re: Novice sysadmins (was: Suggestions for a more privacy conscious email provider) Leo Bicknell (Dec 05)
- Re: Novice sysadmins (was: Suggestions for a more privacy conscious email provider) amuse (Dec 05)
- Re: Novice sysadmins Miles Fidelman (Dec 05)
- Re: Novice sysadmins (was: Suggestions for a more privacy conscious email provider) William Herrin (Dec 05)
- Re: Novice sysadmins (was: Suggestions for a more privacy conscious email provider) bzs (Dec 06)
- Re: Suggestions for a more privacy conscious email provider John Levine (Dec 05)
- Re: Suggestions for a more privacy conscious email provider Lyndon Nerenberg (Dec 04)
- Re: Suggestions for a more privacy conscious email provider Stephen Satchell (Dec 04)
- Re: Suggestions for a more privacy conscious email provider amuse (Dec 04)
- RE: Suggestions for a more privacy conscious email provider Edwin Pers (Dec 05)
- Re: Suggestions for a more privacy conscious email provider Stephen Satchell (Dec 05)
- RE: Suggestions for a more privacy conscious email provider Gordon Ewasiuk via NANOG (Dec 06)