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Re: Krebs on Security booted off Akamai network after DDoS attack proves pricey


From: Mike Hammett <nanog () ics-il net>
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2016 14:49:30 -0500 (CDT)

"who from my experience tend to be the least 
experienced and network knowledgeable people running a customer network" 


Also most likely to have built their network from scratch out of pure need (perhaps for themselves) rather than someone 
cashing in on a trend. No offense meant (though surely someone took it) either way. 




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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

Midwest-IX 
http://www.midwest-ix.com 

----- Original Message -----

From: "Brielle Bruns" <bruns () 2mbit com> 
To: nanog () nanog org 
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 9:48:24 AM 
Subject: Re: Krebs on Security booted off Akamai network after DDoS attack proves pricey 

On 9/26/16 10:05 PM, Roland Dobbins wrote: 
+1 for this capability in CPE. 

OTOH, it will be of no use whatsoever to the user. Providing the user 
with access to anomalous traffic feeds won't help, either. 

Users aren't going to call in some third-party service/support company, 
either. 

You start cutting off users or putting them into a walled garden until 
they fix their machines, and they will start caring. 

This will only work if all providers including cable, DSL and *shudders* 
WISPs (hate to be blunt, but who from my experience tend to be the least 
experienced and network knowledgeable people running a customer network) 
do it so customer's can't just switch networks and 'make the problem go 
away'. 

I use escalating price increases and delays in service/repair time on 
some of my consulting customers who do things I warned them to be more 
careful about. 

It takes time, but when $cost starts to become prohibitive, they stop 
and think. And the ones that never learn... Well, that's more $$$ in 
my pocket for the effort that I would normally charge otherwise. 

-- 
Brielle Bruns 
The Summit Open Source Development Group 
http://www.sosdg.org / http://www.ahbl.org 


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