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Re: Krebs on Security booted off Akamai network after DDoS attack proves pricey
From: Mike Hammett <nanog () ics-il net>
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2016 14:49:30 -0500 (CDT)
"who from my experience tend to be the least experienced and network knowledgeable people running a customer network" Also most likely to have built their network from scratch out of pure need (perhaps for themselves) rather than someone cashing in on a trend. No offense meant (though surely someone took it) either way. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest-IX http://www.midwest-ix.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brielle Bruns" <bruns () 2mbit com> To: nanog () nanog org Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 9:48:24 AM Subject: Re: Krebs on Security booted off Akamai network after DDoS attack proves pricey On 9/26/16 10:05 PM, Roland Dobbins wrote:
+1 for this capability in CPE. OTOH, it will be of no use whatsoever to the user. Providing the user with access to anomalous traffic feeds won't help, either. Users aren't going to call in some third-party service/support company, either.
You start cutting off users or putting them into a walled garden until they fix their machines, and they will start caring. This will only work if all providers including cable, DSL and *shudders* WISPs (hate to be blunt, but who from my experience tend to be the least experienced and network knowledgeable people running a customer network) do it so customer's can't just switch networks and 'make the problem go away'. I use escalating price increases and delays in service/repair time on some of my consulting customers who do things I warned them to be more careful about. It takes time, but when $cost starts to become prohibitive, they stop and think. And the ones that never learn... Well, that's more $$$ in my pocket for the effort that I would normally charge otherwise. -- Brielle Bruns The Summit Open Source Development Group http://www.sosdg.org / http://www.ahbl.org
Current thread:
- Re: Krebs on Security booted off Akamai network after DDoS attack proves pricey, (continued)
- Re: Krebs on Security booted off Akamai network after DDoS attack proves pricey Eliot Lear (Sep 28)
- Re: Krebs on Security booted off Akamai network after DDoS attack proves pricey Stephen Satchell (Sep 28)
- Re: Krebs on Security booted off Akamai network after DDoS attack proves pricey Keith Stokes (Sep 27)
- Re: Krebs on Security booted off Akamai network after DDoS attack proves pricey Brielle Bruns (Sep 27)
- Re: Krebs on Security booted off Akamai network after DDoS attack proves pricey Roland Dobbins (Sep 27)
- Re: Krebs on Security booted off Akamai network after DDoS attack proves pricey Brielle Bruns (Sep 27)
- Re: Krebs on Security booted off Akamai network after DDoS attack proves pricey Brielle Bruns (Sep 27)
- Re: Krebs on Security booted off Akamai network after DDoS attack proves pricey Roland Dobbins (Sep 27)
- Re: Krebs on Security booted off Akamai network after DDoS attack proves pricey Peter Beckman (Sep 27)
- Re: Krebs on Security booted off Akamai network after DDoS attack proves pricey Mike Hammett (Sep 27)
- Re: Krebs on Security booted off Akamai network after DDoS attack proves pricey Mike Hammett (Sep 27)
- Re: Krebs on Security booted off Akamai network after DDoS attack proves pricey Jared Mauch (Sep 27)
- Re: Krebs on Security booted off Akamai network after DDoS attack proves pricey Sam Silvester (Sep 27)
- Re: Krebs on Security booted off Akamai network after DDoS attack proves pricey Roland Dobbins (Sep 27)
- Re: Krebs on Security booted off Akamai network after DDoS attack proves pricey Florian Weimer (Sep 27)
- Re: Krebs on Security booted off Akamai network after DDoS attack proves pricey Roland Dobbins (Sep 27)
- Re: Krebs on Security booted off Akamai network after DDoS attack proves pricey Jared Mauch (Sep 27)
- Re: Krebs on Security booted off Akamai network after DDoS attack proves pricey Florian Weimer (Sep 27)
- Re: Krebs on Security booted off Akamai network after DDoS attack proves pricey John R. Levine (Sep 26)
- Re: Krebs on Security booted off Akamai network after DDoS attack proves pricey Eliot Lear (Sep 26)
- Re: Krebs on Security booted off Akamai network after DDoS attack proves pricey Florian Weimer (Sep 27)