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Re: "Defensive" BGP hijacking?
From: Mel Beckman <mel () beckman org>
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2016 14:51:53 +0000
Scott and Doug, The problem with a new automated enforcement system is that it hobbles both agility and innovation. ISPs have enjoyed simple BGP management, entirely self-regulated, for decades. A global enforcement system, besides being dang hard to do correctly, brings the specter of government interference, since such a system could be overtaken by government entities to manhandle free speech. In my opinion, the community hasn't spent nearly enough time discussing the danger aspect. Being engineers, we focus on technical means, ignoring the fact that we're designing our own guillotine. -mel beckman
On Sep 14, 2016, at 12:10 AM, Scott Weeks <surfer () mauigateway com> wrote: --- dougm.work () gmail com wrote: From: Doug Montgomery <dougm.work () gmail com> If only there were a global system, with consistent and verifiable security properties, to permit address holders to declare the set of AS's authorized to announce their prefixes, and routers anywhere on the Internet to independently verify the corresponding validity of received announcements. *cough https://www.nanog.org/meetings/abstract?id=2846 cough* ------------------------------------------------ Yes, RPKI. That's what I was waiting for. Now we can get to a real discussion... ;-) scott
Current thread:
- Re: "Defensive" BGP hijacking?, (continued)
- Re: "Defensive" BGP hijacking? Mel Beckman (Sep 20)
- Re: "Defensive" BGP hijacking? Justin Paine via NANOG (Sep 20)
- Re: "Defensive" BGP hijacking? Tom Beecher (Sep 20)
- Re: "Defensive" BGP hijacking? Bryant Townsend (Sep 20)
- Re: "Defensive" BGP hijacking? Hunter Fuller (Sep 13)
- Re: "Defensive" BGP hijacking? Hugo Slabbert (Sep 13)
- Re: "Defensive" BGP hijacking? Bryant Townsend (Sep 13)
- Re: "Defensive" BGP hijacking? Mel Beckman (Sep 14)
- Re: "Defensive" BGP hijacking? Doug Montgomery (Sep 15)
- Re: "Defensive" BGP hijacking? Mel Beckman (Sep 14)
- Re: "Defensive" BGP hijacking? Doug Montgomery (Sep 16)
- Re: "Defensive" BGP hijacking? Mel Beckman (Sep 16)
- Re: "Defensive" BGP hijacking? Christopher Morrow (Sep 18)
- Re: "Defensive" BGP hijacking? Christopher Morrow (Sep 14)
- Re: "Defensive" BGP hijacking? John Curran (Sep 19)
- Re: "Defensive" BGP hijacking? Christopher Morrow (Sep 19)