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Re: sub $500-750 CPE firewall for voip-centric application


From: Keith Stokes <keiths () neilltech com>
Date: Fri, 6 May 2016 18:41:40 +0000

I've been told by various PCI auditors that a noncommercial/FOSS firewall could pass as long as you have implemented 
the necessary controls such as encryption/logging/management and passing actual testing.

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Keith Stokes

On May 6, 2016, at 1:31 PM, Mel Beckman <mel () beckman org> wrote:

The question of code quality is always a difficult one, since in FOSS it’s public and often found lacking, but in 
private source you may never know. In these cases I rely on the vendor’s public statements about their development 
processes and certifications (e.g., ICSA). Commercial products often disclose their development processes and even 
run in-house security threat research groups that publish to the community.

There are also outside certifications. For example, www.icsalabs.com<http://www.icsalabs.com> lists certifications by 
vendor for those that have passed their test regimen, and both Dell SonicWall and Fortinet Fortigate are shown to be 
current. PFSense isn’t listed, and although it is theoretically vetted by many users, there is no guarantee of 
recency or thoroughness of the test regimen.

This brings up the question of whether PFSense can meet regulatory requirements such as PCI, HIPAA, GLBA and SOX. 
While these regulatory organizations don’t require specific overall firewall certifications, they do require various 
specific standards, such as encryption strength, logging, VPN timeouts, etc. I don’t know if PFsense meets these 
requirements, as they don’t say so on their site. Companies like Dell publish white papers on their compliance with 
each regulatory organization.

-mel


On May 6, 2016, at 11:05 AM, Aris Lambrianidis <effulgence () gmail com<mailto:effulgence () gmail com>> wrote:

amuse wrote:
One question I have is:  Is there any reason to believe that the source
code for Sonicwall, Cisco, etc are any better than the PFSense code?  Or
are we just able to see the PFSense code and make unfounded assumptions
that the commercial code is in better shape?
Perhaps not. In fact, probably not, judging by the apparent lack of
audit processes for say,
OpenSSL libraries re-used in commercial products.

It still doesn't detract from the value  of what people are aware of, in
this case,
pfSense code quality.

Aris



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