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Re: Oh dear, we've all been made redundant...
From: Larry Sheldon <larrysheldon () cox net>
Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2016 01:15:03 -0500
On 3/25/2016 09:39, Bryan Bradsby wrote:
Uggghhh. I've always hated this 'reboot, see if it fixes it' methodology. If the CPEs can't recover from error conditions correctly, they shouldn't be used. I blame Microsoft for making this concept acceptable. ChuckI was getting 20% TCP packet loss between two of my unix boxes on the TWC route from my house to work, so I called support. I used lft - like tcptraceroute - both directions, to identify a TWC backbone router in Dallas as the problem. I then used the TWC looking glass to show the same result. I was told i needed to reboot my router to troubleshoot. I offered to reboot my router, after he rebooted his router in Dallas ;)
Conversation with one of my daughters earlier about a problem in her office today (short summary as I recall it): Changes made to their VOIP system the night before, stuff broken the next day.
She tried to get "support" to look at the changes made, "support" would not do anything until she had rebooted everything including the microwave, I guess.
Back in the day--my main trouble shooting strategy was to identify all the things that had changed since it last worked the way it was supposed to. The big trouble with that approach is that everybody and their pet spider will decide which changes are "important".
-- sed quis custodiet ipsos custodes? (Juvenal)
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- Re: Oh dear, we've all been made redundant..., (continued)
- Re: Oh dear, we've all been made redundant... Florian Crosnier (Mar 20)
- Re: Oh dear, we've all been made redundant... Todd Crane (Mar 20)
- Re: Oh dear, we've all been made redundant... Mike (Mar 20)
- Re: Oh dear, we've all been made redundant... Roy (Mar 20)
- Re: Oh dear, we've all been made redundant... Valdis . Kletnieks (Mar 20)
- RE: Oh dear, we've all been made redundant... Chuck Church (Mar 21)
- Re: Oh dear, we've all been made redundant... Ken Chase (Mar 21)
- Re: Oh dear, we've all been made redundant... Bacon Zombie (Mar 21)
- Re: Oh dear, we've all been made redundant... Larry Sheldon (Mar 21)
- Re: Oh dear, we've all been made redundant... Bryan Bradsby (Mar 25)
- Re: Oh dear, we've all been made redundant... Larry Sheldon (Mar 25)
- Re: Oh dear, we've all been made redundant... Roy (Mar 20)
- Re: Oh dear, we've all been made redundant... JP Vasseur (jvasseur) (Mar 23)
- Re: Oh dear, we've all been made redundant... Larry LaBas (Mar 23)
- Re: Oh dear, we've all been made redundant... Wayne Bouchard (Mar 23)
- Re: Oh dear, we've all been made redundant... Casey Russell (Mar 24)
- Re: Oh dear, we've all been made redundant... Owen DeLong (Mar 24)
- Re: Oh dear, we've all been made redundant... Larry Sheldon (Mar 24)