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Re: de-peering for security sake


From: Ca By <cb.list6 () gmail com>
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2016 05:43:56 -0800

On Saturday, January 16, 2016, Rich Kulawiec <rsk () gsp org> wrote:

On Thu, Dec 24, 2015 at 11:44:10PM +0000, Colin Johnston wrote:
We really need to ask if China and Russia for that matter will not
take abuse reports seriously why allow them to network to the internet ?

One could ask the exact same question about Amazon -- which, as of
the moment, is the worst spam-supporting operation on the planet:

        https://www.spamhaus.org/statistics/networks/

Are they merely incompetent? negligent? stupid? lazy?  Or are they
taking payoffs and bribes from spammers?  Of course from outside there's
no way to know.  But this is not how responsible, ethical, professional
operations behave: those operations promptly read, analyze, answer, and
act on every single abuse report that they get.

---rsk


I really like what spamhaus has done here.

I see a great deal of folks on nanog clamoring to buy ddos gear. Packets
are starting to become like spam email, where 90% are pure rubbish,   and
us good guys have to spend a lot of money and time sorting signal from
noise.

Can Cloudflare, Akamai, and the others in the ddos protection racket please
do as spamhaus has done? It would really be a great service to aggregate
and release high level data on where these ddos bots are hosted.

The pessimistic side of me believes cloudflare and akamai want the internet
to be choked with bots such that everyone must pay their toll, so the
information on the bots is a trade secret... But please prove me wrong so
we can drive higher accountability on the internet.


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