Re: Cisco ASR9010 vs Juniper MX960

[Josh Reynolds <josh () kyneticwifi com>]

Yeah, you might look into that. We're about to put 3 x MX960s in service
and with GRES and NSR we are not dropping traffic when taking the master RE
down.
On Feb 18, 2016 8:05 AM, "Jason Bothe" <jason () rice edu> wrote:

> We have run into issues with GRES, and I think its an issue with the RE we
> have.  I don’t actually perform the tasks so it may or may not be as big of
> an issue as I initially stated.
>
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> Jason Bothe, Manager of Networking
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> On 18, Feb 2016, at 7:59 AM, Josh Reynolds <josh () kyneticwifi com> wrote:
>
> With GRES, can't you simply set the master RE as backup, apply firmware,
> then switch back to master and upgrade the backup RE?
> On Feb 18, 2016 7:57 AM, "Jason Bothe" <jason () rice edu> wrote:
>
> > We have both and they’re both great boxes, however it’s sort of
> > embarrassing that the ASR9k still can’t do virtualized routing, ie.
> > logical-systems.  Not sure if thats a deal breaker for you but just thought
> > you’d like to beware.  We also find OS configurations on the Juniper much
> > easier than the cumbersome  XR OS that the Cisco runs.  The 9k does however
> > get a huge win with the ability to apply a ‘pie’ or software patch while
> > staying in service vs requiring a reload.   Either way, I don’t think
> > you’ll go wrong.
> >
> >
> > J~
> >
> >
> > Jason Bothe, Manager of Networking
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> > > On 18, Feb 2016, at 7:45 AM, Colton Conor <colton.conor () gmail com>
> > wrote:
> > > I would like opinions of the differences between these two platforms if
> > > possible.
> > >
> > > I was going to buy a used Juniper MX960 Router MX960-PREMIUM2-AC-ECM
> > with
> > > 2 x RE-S-1800X4-16G  and 3 x SCBE-MX-S. Then I was going to load this up
> > > with a couple of older DPCE-R-4XGE-XFP 4x10GE DPC Enhanced cards.
> > >
> > > Now Cisco has offered me a new ASR9010 with dual ASR9K Route Switch
> > > Processor with 440G/slot Fabric and 6GB, and two 4X10GE / 16X1G Combo
> > > Linecard, Packet Transport Optimized for about the same price as the
> > used
> > > Juniper. The only catch is the Cisco's support and warranty looks
> > > very expensive per year, but that's hard to compare since a used Juniper
> > > has zero support and warranty included.
> > >
> > >
> > > If these were both brand new with support and warranty which would you
> > > choose? If it were the used Juniper vs new Cisco which would you choose?
> > >
> > > I know Juniper makes newer MIC cards that probably better compete with
> > > these Cisco cards, but that is not option due to price.
> > >
> > > New, Juniper wants to sell me a MX104 for the same price that I can get
> > > this Cisco ASR9010. I think that is a no brainer to go with the ASR at
> > that
> > > point. I asked for new pricing on a MX240/480/960, but that was not even
> > > close to the ASR9010 numbers.
> > >
> > > I can also buy two ASR 9001's for the same price and as the single
> > ASR9010.
> > >