Re: Cisco ASR9010 vs Juniper MX960

[Jason Bothe <jason () rice edu>]

We have run into issues with GRES, and I think its an issue with the RE we have.  I don’t actually perform the tasks so 
it may or may not be as big of an issue as I initially stated.



Jason Bothe, Manager of Networking
Rice University
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> On 18, Feb 2016, at 7:59 AM, Josh Reynolds <josh () kyneticwifi com> wrote:
>
> With GRES, can't you simply set the master RE as backup, apply firmware, then switch back to master and upgrade the 
> backup RE?
>
> On Feb 18, 2016 7:57 AM, "Jason Bothe" <jason () rice edu <mailto:jason () rice edu>> wrote:
> We have both and they’re both great boxes, however it’s sort of embarrassing that the ASR9k still can’t do 
> virtualized routing, ie. logical-systems.  Not sure if thats a deal breaker for you but just thought you’d like to 
> beware.  We also find OS configurations on the Juniper much easier than the cumbersome  XR OS that the Cisco runs.  
> The 9k does however get a huge win with the ability to apply a ‘pie’ or software patch while staying in service vs 
> requiring a reload.   Either way, I don’t think you’ll go wrong.
>
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> J~
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> Jason Bothe, Manager of Networking
> Rice University
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> > On 18, Feb 2016, at 7:45 AM, Colton Conor <colton.conor () gmail com <mailto:colton.conor () gmail com>> wrote:
> >
> > I would like opinions of the differences between these two platforms if
> > possible.
> >
> > I was going to buy a used Juniper MX960 Router MX960-PREMIUM2-AC-ECM with
> > 2 x RE-S-1800X4-16G  and 3 x SCBE-MX-S. Then I was going to load this up
> > with a couple of older DPCE-R-4XGE-XFP 4x10GE DPC Enhanced cards.
> >
> > Now Cisco has offered me a new ASR9010 with dual ASR9K Route Switch
> > Processor with 440G/slot Fabric and 6GB, and two 4X10GE / 16X1G Combo
> > Linecard, Packet Transport Optimized for about the same price as the used
> > Juniper. The only catch is the Cisco's support and warranty looks
> > very expensive per year, but that's hard to compare since a used Juniper
> > has zero support and warranty included.
> >
> >
> > If these were both brand new with support and warranty which would you
> > choose? If it were the used Juniper vs new Cisco which would you choose?
> >
> > I know Juniper makes newer MIC cards that probably better compete with
> > these Cisco cards, but that is not option due to price.
> >
> > New, Juniper wants to sell me a MX104 for the same price that I can get
> > this Cisco ASR9010. I think that is a no brainer to go with the ASR at that
> > point. I asked for new pricing on a MX240/480/960, but that was not even
> > close to the ASR9010 numbers.
> >
> > I can also buy two ASR 9001's for the same price and as the single ASR9010.